cdr wrote:
since this thread is so GTK+-centric i'll chime in and say ive found nothing i 
like for easily creating customized/flexible GUIs more than Tcl/Tk [...]

Not to forget there's also Gnocl which lets you program Gnome and GTK+ applications in Tcl: http://www.dr-baum.net/gnocl/

I've actually written a GUI builder for that which makes it possible to click together simple Gnocl GUIs in a matter of minutes. (Currently the builder only generates Q code, see below, but tacking on a Tcl backend to it shouldn't be a big deal.)

I'm not sure how well Tcl integrates with MIDI, OSC and digital audio, though. So, if you want/need to write the rest of the program in C then Tcl might not be that helpful, unless you're willing to fiddle around with SWIG (http://www.swig.org) or Tcl's C interface.

Shameless plug: Those interested in scripting languages might also consider Q (http://q-lang.sf.net) which already has interfaces to PortAudio, libsndfile, libsamplerate, Faust, MidiShare, SuperCollider, OpenGL/OpenAL, Tcl/Tk/Gnocl and whatnot. This has the added benefit that it's a functional language which makes it easy to deal with complex data structures and symbolic processing. I'm currently doing the final touches for the Q 7.0 release which also has full unicode support and comes with the GUI builder I mentioned above. Scheduled to be released Real Soon Now -- surely in time for LAC06. ;-)

once going beyond sortable lists and selectorboxes, youre going to end up with 
some kind of canvas

Yes, having a good canvas widget certainly helps, and Tk has a nice one. The one in Gnocl provides a similar interface while it is based on GNOME Canvas. (Looks like GNOME Canvas isn't liked very much by some, but I found it to be quite usable, at least in its Gnocl incarnation.)

Albert

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Dr. Albert Gr"af
Dept. of Music-Informatics, University of Mainz, Germany
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