On 02.08.2012 13:34, Liu Bo wrote:
> On 08/02/2012 07:18 PM, Arne Jansen wrote:
>> On 02.08.2012 12:36, Liu Bo wrote:
>>> On 08/02/2012 06:30 PM, Stefan Behrens wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:31:54 +0200, Stefan Behrens wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:31:58 +0800, Liu Bo wrote:
>>>>>> On 08/01/2012 09:07 PM, Jan Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, August 01, 2012 at 14:02 (+0200), Liu Bo wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2012 07:45 PM, Stefan Behrens wrote:
>>>>>>>>> With commit acce952b0, btrfs was changed to flag the filesystem with
>>>>>>>>> BTRFS_SUPER_FLAG_ERROR and switch to read-only mode after a fatal
>>>>>>>>> error happened like a write I/O errors of all mirrors.
>>>>>>>>> In such situations, on unmount, the superblock is written in
>>>>>>>>> btrfs_error_commit_super(). This is done with the intention to be able
>>>>>>>>> to evaluate the error flag on the next mount. A warning is printed
>>>>>>>>> in this case during the next mount and the log tree is ignored.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The issue is that it is possible that the superblock points to a root
>>>>>>>>> that was not written (due to write I/O errors).
>>>>>>>>> The result is that the filesystem cannot be mounted. btrfsck also does
>>>>>>>>> not start and all the other btrfs-progs tools fail to start as well.
>>>>>>>>> However, mount -o recovery is working well and does the right things
>>>>>>>>> to recover the filesystem (i.e., don't use the log root, clear the
>>>>>>>>> free space cache and use the next mountable root that is stored in the
>>>>>>>>> root backup array).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This patch removes the writing of the superblock when
>>>>>>>>> BTRFS_SUPER_FLAG_ERROR is set, and removes the handling of the error
>>>>>>>>> flag in the mount function.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, I have to admit that this can be a serious problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But we'll need to send the error flag stored in the super block into
>>>>>>>> disk in the future so that the next mount can find it unstable and do
>>>>>>>> fsck by itself maybe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hum, that's possible. However, I neither see
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a) a safe way to get that flag to disk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> b) a situation where this flag would help. When we abort a transaction, 
>>>>>>> we just
>>>>>>> roll everything back to the last commit, i.e. a consistent state. So if 
>>>>>>> we stop
>>>>>>> writing a potentially corrupt super block, we should be fine anyway. Or 
>>>>>>> am I
>>>>>>> missing something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm just wondering if we can roll everything back well, why do we need 
>>>>>> fsck?
>>>>>
>>>>> If the disks support barriers, we roll everything back very well. The
>>>>> most recent superblock on the disks always defines a consistent
>>>>> filesystem state. There are only two remaining filesystem consistency
>>>>> issues left that can cause inconsistent states, one is the one that the
>>>>> patch in this email addresses, and the second one is that the error
>>>>> result from barrier_all_devices() is ignored (which I want to change 
>>>>> next).
>>>>
>>>> Hi Liu Bo,
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any remaining objections to that patch?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Stefan,
>>>
>>> Still I have another question:
>>>
>>> Our metadata can be flushed into disk if we reach the limit, 32k, so we
>>> can end up with updated metadata and the latest superblock if we do not
>>> write the current super block.
>>
>> The old metadata stays valid until the new superblock is written,
>> so no problem here, or maybe I don't understand your question :)
>>
> 
> Yeah, Arne, you're right :)
> 
> But for undetected and unexpected errors as Arne had mentioned,  I want
> to keep the error flag which is able to inform users that this FS is
> recommended (but not must) to do fsck at least.

How about storing the flag in a different location than the superblock?
If the fs is in an unknown state, every write potentially makes it only
worse.

> 
> thanks,
> liubo
> 
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> liubo
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