On 12/21/2014 11:34 AM, constantine wrote:
Some months ago I had 6 uncorrectable errors. I deleted the files that
contained them and then after scrubbing I had 0 uncorrectable errors.
After some weeks I encountered new uncorrectable errors.

Question 1:
Why do I have uncorrectable errors on a RAID-1 filesystem in the first place?

These are disk/platter/hardware errors. They happen for one of two reasons. (most likely) There is a flaw, new or existing, on the platter itself and data just cannot live in that spot. (least likely) You suffered an environmental hazard (hard jolt) while a sector was being written and the drive is just choking on the digital wreckage.


Question 2:
How do I properly correct them? (Again by deleting their files? :( )

You have to _force_ the system to write the sector. If the disk can correct the sector (not a hardware flaw) the problem goes away forever. If it can't the drive will re-map the sector with a spare sector and it will seem to go away forever.

Here is a decent tutorial :: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html and which version of things you need to do will vary by hardware, so read the whole thing.

_BUT_ on my system I had to use hdparam to write the sectors instead of just using dd. Math is involved to find the LBA and you have to use the "yes I really know what I am doing" option to force the write at the low level.

[Quick version :: smartctl --test=long (or range if you know the range). Test will stop on the read error. Force writ the the "lba of first error" block with hdparam or use the sg-spare thing. Repeat until the long test will read the entire drive.

My current smartctl --all /dev/sda shows that recent remapping exercise.

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 36605 - # 2 Selective offline Completed without error 00% 36603 - # 3 Selective offline Aborted by host 90% 36603 - # 4 Selective offline Completed without error 00% 36603 - # 5 Selective offline Completed: read failure 90% 36603 19530186 # 6 Selective offline Completed: read failure 90% 36603 19530182 # 7 Extended offline Completed: read failure 90% 36602 19530182 # 8 Extended offline Completed: read failure 90% 36602 19530182 # 9 Extended offline Completed: read failure 90% 36592 19530182 #10 Extended offline Completed: read failure 90% 36094 19530182 #11 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 4222 - 6 of 6 failed self-tests are outdated by newer successful extended offline self-test # 1


The good news is that since you are using RAID1 and checksums you shouldn't need to delete any files. Just coerce the write and then btrfs scrub your filesystem and the checksum/rewrite thing should recover the degraded copy from the good copy in the mirror.


Question 3:
How do I prevent this from happening?

If the disk only shows an error or two it's probably still in normal range. If you have to spare out a lot of sectors then your disk may be reaching end-of-life and so likely needs replacing.

ALL DISKS FAIL EVENTUALLY so you don't "prevent it from happening". You use RAID1 (etc) and backups to prevent data loss and you periodically run the tests and check the output to prevent data loss.

That is, you can't prevent eventual disk loss, your job is to prevent data loss. So good on you for the RAID1



Thanks a lot!

constantine


PS.
The disks can be considered old (some with > 15000 hrs online), but
SMART long tests complete without errors. I have this filesystem:

I don't see the smart test results in any of these blocks. Are you sure you are looking at the correct part of the results? You should have been showing us the table after the heading "SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1" if you are trying to show us tests completing without errors.

See smartctl --all and/or --xall output, e.g. _lower_ _case_ "a" or "x", not upper case "A" "attributes", test results will be near the bottom.

The "attribute" section is interesting but not dispositive of recent test results. It only shows non-test event counters.


# btrfs fi show /mnt/thefilesystem
Label: 'thefilesystem'  uuid: 1d1d0850-d1bc-4c76-96a1-17d168ff2431
         Total devices 5 FS bytes used 6.11TiB
         devid    1 size 2.73TiB used 2.63TiB path /dev/sda1
         devid    2 size 3.64TiB used 3.54TiB path /dev/sdg1
         devid    3 size 1.82TiB used 1.72TiB path /dev/sdd1
         devid    4 size 1.82TiB used 1.72TiB path /dev/sdc1
         devid    5 size 2.73TiB used 2.63TiB path /dev/sdh1

Btrfs v3.17.3

# btrfs fi df /mnt/thefilesystem
Data, RAID1: total=6.10TiB, used=6.10TiB
System, RAID1: total=32.00MiB, used=896.00KiB
Metadata, RAID1: total=10.00GiB, used=8.98GiB
GlobalReserve, single: total=512.00MiB, used=0.00B

===================
SMART information from each of the disks:

# for i in  a g d c h ; do smartctl -A /dev/sd$i; done
smartctl 6.3 2014-07-26 r3976 [x86_64-linux-3.16.7-1-bfs] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-14, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   177   175   021    Pre-fail
Always       -       6108
   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       201
   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   093   093   000    Old_age
Always       -       5836
  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
  11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       185
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       118
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   189   189   000    Old_age
Always       -       33154
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   114   098   000    Old_age
Always       -       36
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   200   200   000    Old_age
Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   200   200   000    Old_age
Offline      -       0

smartctl 6.3 2014-07-26 r3976 [x86_64-linux-3.16.7-1-bfs] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-14, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   179   175   021    Pre-fail
Always       -       8050
   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       141
   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   094   094   000    Old_age
Always       -       4842
  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
  11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       140
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       91
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   194   194   000    Old_age
Always       -       18614
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   114   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       38
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   200   200   000    Old_age
Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   200   200   000    Old_age
Offline      -       0

smartctl 6.3 2014-07-26 r3976 [x86_64-linux-3.16.7-1-bfs] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-14, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   102   099   006    Pre-fail
Always       -       4738696
   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   092   092   000    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age
Always       -       836
   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail
Always       -       144
   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   078   060   030    Pre-fail
Always       -       69594766
   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   077   077   000    Old_age
Always       -       20554
  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age
Always       -       721
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   092   092   000    Old_age
Always       -       8
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age
Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   099   000    Old_age
Always       -       14
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   097   097   000    Old_age
Always       -       3
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   068   042   045    Old_age
Always   In_the_past 32 (0 15 39 23 0)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       320
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       947
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   032   058   000    Old_age
Always       -       32 (0 13 0 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   014   003   000    Old_age
Always       -       4738696
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age
Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age
Offline      -       19390 (116 2 0)
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age
Offline      -       2165686930
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age
Offline      -       1913785108

smartctl 6.3 2014-07-26 r3976 [x86_64-linux-3.16.7-1-bfs] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-14, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail
Always       -       1
   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   182   178   021    Pre-fail
Always       -       5900
   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       310
   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   086   086   000    Old_age
Always       -       10839
  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
  11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       275
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       175
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   123   123   000    Old_age
Always       -       233706
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   120   102   000    Old_age
Always       -       30
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   200   200   000    Old_age
Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   200   200   000    Old_age
Offline      -       0

smartctl 6.3 2014-07-26 r3976 [x86_64-linux-3.16.7-1-bfs] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-14, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   117   099   006    Pre-fail
Always       -       154070800
   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   094   093   000    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age
Always       -       198
   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   077   060   030    Pre-fail
Always       -       4346841135
   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   090   090   000    Old_age
Always       -       9283
  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail
Always       -       0
  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age
Always       -       185
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   099    Old_age
Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0 0 0
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   098   098   000    Old_age
Always       -       2
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   065   046   045    Old_age
Always       -       35 (Min/Max 23/45)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       129
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age
Always       -       5879
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   035   054   000    Old_age
Always       -       35 (0 19 0 0 0)
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age
Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age
Always       -       0
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age
Offline      -       8753h+05m+40.278s
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age
Offline      -       36640474598
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age
Offline      -       94882096088
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