On 11 June 2015 at 02:50, Jeff Mahoney <je...@suse.com> wrote:
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> On 6/10/15 7:10 PM, Hugo Mills wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 07:55:05PM +0200, pu...@xs4all.nl wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've noticed this "@" sign in the subvolume's path with SLES12.
>>> I'm wondering what is its purpose. openSUSE 13.2 doesn't seem to
>>> be using it.
>>
>> They created a subvolume called "@" and then put all the other
>> subvolumes under there. There's nothing special about it.
>>
>> The @ is often used as a prefix on subvolumes (e.g. in Ubuntu) to
>> indicate that they're subvolumes, but it's not required, and
>> doesn't have any extra meaning beyond being a useful naming
>> convention.
>
> Yep. That explanation is accurate but is missing the rest of the
> story. The choice of @ is probably due to following the convention
> started by the Ubuntu folks but also because it's the least
> complicated of the alternative names we could have used. The @
> subvolume is set as the default subvolume. As you'd expect, it's
> mounted at / and used as such. The reason we use a separate subvolume
> is so we can easily implement our boot-and-rollback-from-snapshot
> functionality in SLE12. Having the root file system as a separate
> subvolume means we can move one of the snapshot subvolumes into the fs
> tree root, move the other @ subvolumes into that subvolume, and we
> have a rolled back system from which we can easily remove the
> now-unused root. If we didn't use a separate subvolume for it, it
> would make the rollback very complicated. It's used in concert with
> our GRUB implementation that iterates and presents possible snapshots
> to use as a root file system in lieu of the "real" one should a
> problem occur.
>

Interesting, can you point out to that GRUB implementation bits? On at
least Ubuntu i believe we currently require to boot off @ subvolume,
and don't offer the option to boot into a snapshot.
But that would be very disarable, since e.g. with apt-snapshot
installed we do generate checkpoint snapshot before each upgrade.
Getting easy option to roll back to that would be awesome.

Regards,

Dimitri.


> - -Jeff
>
>>>
>>> SLES12: # btrfs sub list / ID 257 gen 2270 top level 5 path @ ID
>>> 258 gen 1655 top level 257 path @/boot/grub2/i386-pc ID 259 gen
>>> 4263 top level 257 path @/boot/grub2/x86_64-efi ID 260 gen 4037
>>> top level 257 path @/opt ID 261 gen 2553 top level 257 path
>>> @/srv ID 262 gen 4521 top level 257 path @/tmp ID 263 gen 4492
>>> top level 257 path @/usr/local ID 264 gen 1655 top level 257 path
>>> @/var/crash ID 265 gen 1655 top level 257 path @/var/lib/mailman
>>> ID 266 gen 1655 top level 257 path @/var/lib/named ID 267 gen
>>> 1655 top level 257 path @/var/lib/pgsql ID 268 gen 4523 top level
>>> 257 path @/var/log ID 269 gen 1655 top level 257 path @/var/opt
>>> ID 270 gen 4524 top level 257 path @/var/spool ID 271 gen 4521
>>> top level 257 path @/var/tmp ID 275 gen 4505 top level 257 path
>>> @/.snapshots
>>>
>>>
>>> openSUSE 13.2:
>>>
>>> # btrfs subvol list / ID 257 gen 3481911 top level 5 path
>>> boot/grub2/i386-pc ID 258 gen 3481911 top level 5 path
>>> boot/grub2/x86_64-efi ID 259 gen 3517714 top level 5 path home ID
>>> 260 gen 3515789 top level 5 path opt ID 261 gen 3513493 top level
>>> 5 path srv ID 262 gen 3513372 top level 5 path tmp ID 263 gen
>>> 3517660 top level 5 path usr/local ID 264 gen 3513372 top level 5
>>> path var/crash ID 265 gen 3513372 top level 5 path
>>> var/lib/mailman ID 266 gen 3513372 top level 5 path
>>> var/lib/named ID 267 gen 3513372 top level 5 path var/lib/pgsql
>>> ID 268 gen 3517714 top level 5 path var/log ID 269 gen 3513372
>>> top level 5 path var/opt ID 270 gen 3517714 top level 5 path
>>> var/spool ID 271 gen 3517706 top level 5 path var/tmp ID 276 gen
>>> 3517669 top level 5 path .snapshots
>>
>
>
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> Jeff Mahoney
> SUSE Labs
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Dimitri.
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