On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Goffredo Baroncelli <kreij...@inwind.it> wrote:
> On 2016-02-04 02:33, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>> The idea itself makes a lot of sense.
>> But I have at least two things to worry about:
>>
>> 1) Old scripts backward compatibility
>>     Especially xfstests. Maintainer will hate it a lot.
>>     As we have changed it several times and broken existing test cases.
>>
>>     Although personally I like to let all the backward compatibility
>>     things go hell, but that's definitely not how things work. :(
>
> we could change the name of the btrfs prog (like bfs or bctl  ?).

btrfsctl? :-)

Is there a big problem with just having a consistent "machine
readable" flag for the existing btrfs that achieves this goal? Why fix
bugs in two different places when this is really just a request to
have consistent output *formatting*?


> If the command is called with the old name (btrfs) the old behavior is 
> maintained; with the new name the new output is show if the specific sub 
> command was updated; instead if the specific sub-command is not updated, the 
> old output is show.

If there's a new command, then it ought to be for scripts, not for
users. We are much better off breaking all scripts with a new way of
doing things going forward, than breaking users (again) with another
command change.


>
> We could allow a window of 1-year of transition where the new command will be 
> in the alpha state where there is no any guarantee to be backward compatible, 
> hoping that this time would be sufficient to reshape the output of all 
> commands.
>

Well quite honestly I think bash scripts depending on user space tools
are subject to no guarantees anyway. How about an actual stable
API/ABI for developers to depend on if they need to interact with
Btrfs, rather than doing it indirectly through user space tools, which
are mainly for users after all.

-- 
Chris Murphy
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