On 06/13/2016 02:33 PM, Austin S. Hemmelgarn wrote:
On 2016-06-10 18:39, Hans van Kranenburg wrote:
On 06/11/2016 12:10 AM, ojab // wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Hans van Kranenburg
<hans.van.kranenb...@mendix.com> wrote:
You can work around it by either adding two disks (like Henk said),
or by
temporarily converting some chunks to single. Just enough to get some
free
space on the first two disks to get a balance going that can fill the
third
one. You don't have to convert all of your data or metadata to single!

Something like:

btrfs balance start -v -dconvert=single,limit=10 /mnt/xxx/

Unfortunately it fails even if I set limit=1:
$ sudo btrfs balance start -v -dconvert=single,limit=1 /mnt/xxx/
Dumping filters: flags 0x1, state 0x0, force is off
  DATA (flags 0x120): converting, target=281474976710656, soft is
off, limit=1
ERROR: error during balancing '/mnt/xxx/': No space left on device
There may be more info in syslog - try dmesg | tail

Ah, apparently the balance operation *always* wants to allocate some new
empty space before starting to look more close at the task you give it...
No, that's not exactly true.  It seems to be a rather common fallacy
right now that balance repacks data into existing chunks, which is
absolutely false.  What a balance does is to send everything selected by
the filters through the allocator again, and specifically prevent any
existing chunks from being used to satisfy the allocation.  When you
have 5 data chunks that are 20% used and run 'balance -dlimit=20', it
doesn't pack that all into the first chunk, it allocates a new chunk,
and then packs it all into that, then frees all the other chunks.  This
behavior is actually a pretty important property when adding or removing
devices or converting between profiles, because it's what forces things
into the new configuration of the filesystem.

In an ideal situation, the limit filters should make it repack into
existing chunks when specified alone, but currently that's not how it
works, and I kind of doubt that that will ever be how it works.

I have to disagree with you here, based on what I see happening. Two examples will follow, providing some pudding for the proof.

Also, the behaviour of *always* creating a new empty block group before starting to work (which makes it impossible to free up space on a fully allocated filesystem with balance) got reverted in:

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/commit/?id=cf25ce518e8ef9d59b292e51193bed2b023a32da

This patch is in 4.5 and 4.7-rc, but *not* in 4.6.

Script used to provide block group output, using pyton-btrfs:

-# cat show_block_groups.py
#!/usr/bin/python

from __future__ import print_function
import btrfs
import sys

fs = btrfs.FileSystem(sys.argv[1])
for chunk in fs.chunks():
    print(fs.block_group(chunk.vaddr, chunk.length))

Example 1:

-# uname -a
Linux ichiban 4.5.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.5.4-1~bpo8+1 (2016-05-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux

-# ./show_block_groups.py /
block group vaddr 86211821568 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 837120000 used_pct 78 block group vaddr 87285563392 length 33554432 flags SYSTEM used 16384 used_pct 0 block group vaddr 87319117824 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1070030848 used_pct 100 block group vaddr 88392859648 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1057267712 used_pct 98 block group vaddr 89466601472 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1066360832 used_pct 99 block group vaddr 90540343296 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 238256128 used_pct 89 block group vaddr 90808778752 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 226082816 used_pct 84 block group vaddr 91077214208 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 242548736 used_pct 90 block group vaddr 91345649664 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 218415104 used_pct 81 block group vaddr 91614085120 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 223723520 used_pct 83 block group vaddr 91882520576 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 68272128 used_pct 25 block group vaddr 92150956032 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1048154112 used_pct 98 block group vaddr 93224697856 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 800985088 used_pct 75 block group vaddr 94298439680 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 62197760 used_pct 6 block group vaddr 95372181504 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 49541120 used_pct 5 block group vaddr 96445923328 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 142856192 used_pct 13 block group vaddr 97519665152 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 102051840 used_pct 10

Now do a balance, to remove the least used block group:

1st terminal:
-# watch -d './show_block_groups.py /'

2nd terminal:
-# btrfs balance start -v -dusage=5 /
Dumping filters: flags 0x1, state 0x0, force is off
  DATA (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=5
Done, had to relocate 1 out of 17 chunks

After:

-# ./show_block_groups.py /
block group vaddr 86211821568 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 837120000 used_pct 78 block group vaddr 87285563392 length 33554432 flags SYSTEM used 16384 used_pct 0 block group vaddr 87319117824 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1070030848 used_pct 100 block group vaddr 88392859648 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1057267712 used_pct 98 block group vaddr 89466601472 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1066360832 used_pct 99 block group vaddr 90540343296 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 236830720 used_pct 88 block group vaddr 90808778752 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 224100352 used_pct 83 block group vaddr 91077214208 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 248299520 used_pct 92 block group vaddr 91345649664 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 218333184 used_pct 81 block group vaddr 91614085120 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 223117312 used_pct 83 block group vaddr 91882520576 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 66551808 used_pct 25 block group vaddr 92150956032 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1048154112 used_pct 98 block group vaddr 93224697856 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 800985088 used_pct 75 block group vaddr 94298439680 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 62033920 used_pct 6 block group vaddr 96445923328 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 142331904 used_pct 13 block group vaddr 97519665152 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 152297472 used_pct 14
block group vaddr 98593406976 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 0 used_pct 0

First, the new empty block group is created, after that (using the watch) I can see the data from 95372181504 moving into an existing bg at 97519665152. The empty one is left behind.

Second example:

-# uname -a
Linux mekker 4.7.0-rc4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.7~rc4-1~exp1 (2016-06-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux

-# ./show_block_groups.py /
block group vaddr 21630025728 length 33554432 flags SYSTEM used 4096 used_pct 0 block group vaddr 21663580160 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 108011520 used_pct 40 block group vaddr 21932015616 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 171769856 used_pct 64 block group vaddr 22200451072 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 89567232 used_pct 33 block group vaddr 22468886528 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1059094528 used_pct 99 block group vaddr 24616370176 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1024077824 used_pct 95 block group vaddr 25690112000 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 661626880 used_pct 62 block group vaddr 27837595648 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 824950784 used_pct 77 block group vaddr 28911337472 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 939896832 used_pct 88 block group vaddr 31058821120 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 816013312 used_pct 76 block group vaddr 32132562944 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 984100864 used_pct 92 block group vaddr 33206304768 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 541122560 used_pct 50 block group vaddr 36427530240 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 79302656 used_pct 30 block group vaddr 58528366592 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 579461120 used_pct 54 block group vaddr 69265784832 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 462090240 used_pct 43 block group vaddr 70339526656 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 700502016 used_pct 65 block group vaddr 71413268480 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 255000576 used_pct 24 block group vaddr 72487010304 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 348327936 used_pct 32 block group vaddr 73560752128 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 476127232 used_pct 44 block group vaddr 75708235776 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 301572096 used_pct 28 block group vaddr 76781977600 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 476241920 used_pct 44 block group vaddr 77855719424 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 844894208 used_pct 79

Now, let's do a balance that will remove the bg at 71413268480:

-# btrfs balance start -v -dusage=25 .
Dumping filters: flags 0x1, state 0x0, force is off
  DATA (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=25
Done, had to relocate 1 out of 22 chunks

Result:

-# ./show_block_groups.py /
block group vaddr 21630025728 length 33554432 flags SYSTEM used 4096 used_pct 0 block group vaddr 21663580160 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 107319296 used_pct 40 block group vaddr 21932015616 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 175788032 used_pct 65 block group vaddr 22200451072 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 89026560 used_pct 33 block group vaddr 22468886528 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1059090432 used_pct 99 block group vaddr 24616370176 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 1061240832 used_pct 99 block group vaddr 25690112000 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 879472640 used_pct 82 block group vaddr 27837595648 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 824950784 used_pct 77 block group vaddr 28911337472 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 939896832 used_pct 88 block group vaddr 31058821120 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 816013312 used_pct 76 block group vaddr 32132562944 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 984100864 used_pct 92 block group vaddr 33206304768 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 541122560 used_pct 50 block group vaddr 36427530240 length 268435456 flags METADATA used 76374016 used_pct 28 block group vaddr 58528366592 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 579461120 used_pct 54 block group vaddr 69265784832 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 462090240 used_pct 43 block group vaddr 70339526656 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 700502016 used_pct 65 block group vaddr 72487010304 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 348327936 used_pct 32 block group vaddr 73560752128 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 476127232 used_pct 44 block group vaddr 75708235776 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 301572096 used_pct 28 block group vaddr 76781977600 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 476241920 used_pct 44 block group vaddr 77855719424 length 1073741824 flags DATA used 844886016 used_pct 79

No new empty block group, yay. Data from the 24% filled at 71413268480 moved into existing block groups 24616370176 and 25690112000.

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