On 2016-10-20 09:47, Timofey Titovets wrote:
2016-10-20 15:09 GMT+03:00 Austin S. Hemmelgarn <ahferro...@gmail.com>:
On 2016-10-20 05:29, Timofey Titovets wrote:
Hi, i use btrfs for NFS VM replica storage and for NFS shared VM storage.
At now i have a small problem what VM image deletion took to long time
and NFS client show a timeout on deletion
(ESXi Storage migration as example).
Kernel: Linux nfs05 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.7.5-1~bpo8+2
(2016-10-01) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Mount options: noatime,compress-force=zlib,space_cache,commit=180
Feature enabled:
big_metadata:1
compress_lzo:1
extended_iref:1
mixed_backref:1
no_holes:1
skinny_metadata:1
AFAIK, unlink() return only when all references to all extents from
unlinked inode will be deleted
So with compression enabled files have a many many refs to each
compressed chunk.
So, it's possible to return unlink() early? or this a bad idea(and why)?
I may be completely off about this, but I could have sworn that unlink()
returns when enough info is on the disk that both:
1. The file isn't actually visible in the directory.
2. If the system crashes, the filesystem will know to finish the cleanup.
Out of curiosity, what are the mount options (and export options) for the
NFS share? I have a feeling that that's also contributing. In particular,
if you're on a reliable network, forcing UDP for mounting can significantly
help performance, and if your server is reliable, you can set NFS to run
asynchronously to make unlink() return almost immediately.
For NFS export i use:
rw,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check,fsid=1
AFAIK ESXi don't support nfs with udp
That doesn't surprise me. If there's any chance of packet loss, then
NFS over UDP risks data corruption, so a lot of 'professional' software
only supports NFS over TCP. The thing is though, in a vast majority of
networks ESXi would be running in, there's functionally zero chance of
packet loss unless there's a hardware failure.
And you right on normal Linux client async work pretty good and
deletion of big file are pretty fast (but also it's can lock nfsd on
nfs server for long time, while he do unlink()).
You might also try with NFS-Ganesha instead of the Linux kernel NFS
server. It scales a whole lot better and tends to be a bit smarter, so
it might help (especially since it gives better NFS over TCP performance
than the kernel server too). The only significant downside is that it's
somewhat lacking in good documentation.
Now, on top of that, you should probably look at adding 'lazytime' to the
mount options for BTRFS. This will cause updates to file time-stamps (not
just atime, but mtime also, it has no net effect on ctime though, because a
ctime update means something else in the inode got updated) to be deferred
up to 24 hours or until the next time the inode would be written out, which
can significantly improve performance on BTRFS because of the
write-amplification. It's not hugely likely to improve performance for
unlink(), but it should improve write performance some, which may help in
general.
Thanks for lazytime i forgot about it %)
On my debian servers i can't apply it with error:
BTRFS info (device sdc1): unrecognized mount option 'lazytime'
But successful apply it to my arch box (Linux 4.8.2)
That's odd, 4.7 kernels definitely have support for it (I've been using
it since 4.7.0 on all my systems, but I build upstream kernels).
For fast unlink(), i just think about subvolume like behaviour, then
it's possible to fast delete subvolume (without commit) and then
kernel will clean data in the background.
There's two other possibilities I can think of to improve this. One is
putting each VM image in it's own subvolume, but that then means you
almost certainly can't use ESXi to delete the images directly, although
it will likely get you better performance overall.
The other is to see if you can use a chunked image file format. I'm not
sure what it would be called in VMWare, but it just amounts to splitting
the image into a number of smaller files (4M seems to work well for most
workloads). This should also get you slightly better performance
(assuming you have things aligned to the chunk size in the VM disk
itself), and In my experience, it's generally faster on BTRFS to unlink
lots of small files than one big file. I think that VMDK supports this
(it appears to in VirtualBox at least), but you may need to use a
command-line tool to create the image instead of doing it by hand.
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