As I indicated in the first message, we need to obtain a list of suitable tasks for the higher-level sysadmins. For this, we first need to define some organisation of content. For the first JTA, we came up with a theoretical structure of 14 topic areas, each sub-divided into several sub-topics. Distinctions were not always clear however, and we should not impose too much structure beforehand on the jobs we are trying to analyze. Is our initial division into 14 topic areas still relevant for the higher-level JTA? The areas are: 1) Hardware & Architecture 2) Installation & Package Management 3) GNU & Unix commands 4) Devices, Filesystems, FHS 5) Kernel 6) Runlevels (boot, init, shutdown) 7) Text Editing, Processing, Printing 8) Documentation 9) Shells, Scripting, Programming, Compiling 10) X 11) Administrative Tasks 12) Networking Fundamentals 13) Networking Services 14) Security All distribution-specific issues, mainly about installation, and (interactive) maintenance tools, supposedly are covered in the T2x exams of level 1. So do we still need Area 2) for the higher levels? Creating packages from a programs source code may be a task suited for high-level Linux sysadmins, but maybe only for level 3 . The areas 7, 9, and 14 have not yet been fully covered in level 1 (in overall content, not to mention depth). For the higher levels the focus will probably be on areas 12, 13, 14 . To give some ideas, let me outline an alternative, more fine-grained division into areas that I started using for teaching Linux. It was designed more towards teaching different concepts, rather than to categorize tasks (which usually require combined skills and knowledge); hence it may be less suitable for our effort. 1) Hardware [ 2) Install preparation] [ 3) Installation] [ 4) Package Management] 5) Disk & Filesystem Management 6) Process Management 7) File Management 8) User & Group Management 9) X 10) Kernel 11) Runlevels 12) Logging 13) Archiving & Backup 14) Networking Fundamentals 15) Name Resolution 16) Networking Services: NFS SMB DHCP inetd Mail News HTTP 17) Security {18) Documentation} {19) Editing} 20) Printing {21) Shell Skills} 22) Regular Expressions & Filters 23) Scripting & Programming Topics between brackets deal with installation, and that should essentially have been covered in level 1; topics between braces mainly deal with user-level issues that are implicit in level 1 too. Please tell us about your ideas on all this. -- #>!$!%(@^%#%*(&(#@#*$^@^$##*#@&(%)@**$!(&!^(#((#&%!)%*@)(&$($$%(@#)&*!^$)^@*^@) Tom "thriving on chaos" Peters NL-1062 KD nr 149 tel. +31-204080204 Amsterdam e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________________________________ This message was sent by the linux-cert-program mailing list. To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe | mail -s '' [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- #>!$!%(@^%#%*(&(#@#*$^@^$##*#@&(%)@**$!(&!^(#((#&%!)%*@)(&$($$%(@#)&*!^$)^@*^@) Tom "thriving on chaos" Peters NL-1062 KD nr 149 tel. +31-204080204 Amsterdam e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________________________________________________ This message was sent by the linux-cert-program mailing list. To unsubscribe: echo unsubscribe | mail -s '' [EMAIL PROTECTED]