Steve,

Thank you.

This looks quite promissing. I can have maximum performance and fast failover.

Regards,

Chris 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Whitehouse
Sent: Monday, 29 March 2010 23:36
To: linux clustering
Subject: Re: [Linux-cluster] GFS2 - monitoring the rate of Posix lock operations

Hi,

On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 12:15 +0000, Jankowski, Chris wrote:
> Steven,
> 
> >>>You can use localflocks on each node provided you never access any of the 
> >>>locked files from more than once node at once (which may be true depending 
> >>>on how the failover is designed). Then you will get local fcntl lock 
> >>>performance at the expense of cluster fcntl locks.
> 
> I could guarantee that only one node will use the filesystem by putting 
> mount/unmount into the start/stop script for the application service. This is 
> the easy part.
> 
> What I would like to understand is how the GFS2 recovery would look like 
> after failure of the node that had the filesystem mounted. I'd guess that the 
> local locks will be gone with the failed system and there is nothing to 
> recover. The only thing to do would be to replay to transaction log from the 
> failed system.  Is this correct?
> 
Yes, that is correct.

> This would work essentially like having a non-cluster filesystem such as 
> ext3fs, but in case of recovery from a node failure doing only transaction 
> log replay instaed of full fsck?  Or would fsck still be triggered on the 
> attempt to mount the filesystem on the other node.?
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Chris
>  
Fsck would not be triggered on the mount attempt. Its not possible to run fsck 
while the fs is mounted on any node,

Steve.

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven 
> Whitehouse
> Sent: Monday, 29 March 2010 19:41
> To: linux clustering
> Subject: Re: [Linux-cluster] GFS2 - monitoring the rate of Posix lock 
> operations
> 
> On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 02:32 +0000, Jankowski, Chris wrote:
> > Steve,
> > 
> > Q2:
> > >>> Are you sure that the workload isn't causing too many cache 
> > >>> invalidations due to sharing files/directories between nodes? This is 
> > >>> the most usual cause of poor performance.
> > 
> > The other node is completely idle and kept that way by design. Users are 
> > connecting through an IP alias managed by the appplication service. 
> > Application administrators also log in through the alias to do their 
> > maintenance work. In the case of this particular test I manually listed 
> > what is running where. I am very concious of the fact that accesses from 
> > multiple nodes invalidate local in-memory caching.
> > 
> > Q3:
> > >>> Have you used the noatime mount option? If you can use it, its highly 
> > >>> recommended. Also turn off selinux if that is running on the GFS2 
> > >>> filesystem.
> > 
> > The filesystem is mounted with noatime and no nodiratime options. SELinux 
> > is disabled.
> > 
> nodiratime isn't supported, noatime is enough.
> 
> > Q4:
> > >>>Potentially there might be. I don't know enough about the 
> > >>>application to say, but it depends on how the workload can be 
> > >>>arranged,
> > 
> > The application runs on one node at a time.  It has to, as it uses shared 
> > memory. The application uses a database of indexed files. There are 
> > thousands of them. Also, it uses standard UNIX flile locking and range 
> > locking.
> > 
> > What else can I do to minimise the GFS2 locking overhead in this 
> > asymetrical configuration.
> > 
> You can use localflocks on each node provided you never access any of the 
> locked files from more than once node at once (which may be true depending on 
> how the failover is designed). Then you will get local fcntl lock performance 
> at the expense of cluster fcntl locks.
> 
> > Q5:
> > Is this the case that when gfs_controld gets to 100% of one coe DPU usage 
> > then this is a hard limit on the number of Posix locks taken.  Is there 
> > only one gfs_lockd daemon servicng all GFS2 filesystems or are they run on 
> > a per filesystems basis?  In the latter case I would have thought that 
> > breaking the one filesystem that I have into several may help. Would it not?
> > 
> > Thanks and regards,
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> Assuming that you have a version in which gfs_controld takes care of 
> the locking (newer GFS2 send the locks via dlm_controld) then yes, 
> that will provide a hard limit on the rate at which locks can be 
> acquired/dropped,
> 
> Steve.
> 
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