I should have received this message yesterday night ..............
Anyway ..............Thanks you so much !
Finally , I got around a nice piece of DOS freeware called Rahish Partitioner. It
created for me (wizard helped) 2 very nice Win95 Fat partitions which were 100%
recognized by Linux .
End of this problem.
But I will keep note of what you've just explained.
Thanks
Herman Aa wrote:
> Simon, and all others, 1nov99.
>
> The 'end of all your problems' is very near: An old harddisk for WINxx.
> (it works great here)
> Big WINxx programs can reside ELSEWHERE: 'Setup wizards' give a choice:
> drive\path\home-directory\......
> With Linux coming up and WINxx being used less, you need only 500MB
> for WINxx (My WIN98 is 280MB). I can install ANY SIZE program.
> (let me put this at the top of my too long msg .... why do we always
> concentrate on problems instead of picking solutions!)
>
> Simon,
> I have read the thread until this one.
> You got good advice.
> The step-by-step application of it is:
>
> Use Fdisk-windows to partition ONLY 1 windows-partition. Install WINxx on it.
> Reason: If I want to install a second primary partition, Fdisk-windows
> will say:
> "Primary partition already exists." It will not let me.
>
> Do NOT use the DiskManager.
>
> The remainder of the harddisk is unused at this point.
>
> Use Fdisk-linux to partition the remainder of your harddisk.
> You can have total 4 primary partitions (Window-partition + 3).
>
> If 4 partitions is not enough, you have to make an Extended partition.
> (3 primary partitions + 1 Extended partition)
> Inside the extended partition you can make as many logical drives as you need.
>
> Now the controversial points:
> If you need more partitions for WINxx, pick any (logical partitions OK.
> There is no problem to mix WINxx and Linux, except for the WINxx
> partition that holds the \windows\ folder).
> Any partition you can access and format from WINxx, is suitable.
> If WINxx has no access above 8GB, stay below it.
>
> aa. No EXTENDED partition right after the WINxx partition.
> Should you select the (Fdisk-windows) scheme (to keep those extra partitions
> below the 8GB border, in an extended partition) you end up with the Extended
> partition right after WINxx (Winxx patition with the /Windows folder on it):
> P(rimary)partition 1 : WINxx
> EXTENDED partition (inside: all logical partitions)
> Ppartition 2
> Ppartition 3
> ......... and you could be in for trouble in the Extended partition: Winxx
> over-writing the Extended-partition-table (incl all logical drives).
> You can avoid the trouble (and read-up on the problem): Cfdisk-linux comes
> with
> instructions: Clean a 512-byte sector for DOS use.
> (I had more important things to do so I solved my problem by putting WINxx on
> it's own harddisk.)
> I think the trouble is limited to an EXTENDED partition immediately after the
> main WINxx partition. This brings me to bb.
>
> bb. Extended partition towards the end of the drive.
> I would use fdisk-linux as it lets you do this.
> P(rimary)partition 1 : WINxx
> Ppartition 2
> Ppartition 3
> EXTENDED partition
>
> I have no proof that bb. solves all the problems. Read the cfdisk-linux
> instructions for details of problem and solution.
> (backup logical drives and disk-partition-table. If you have no trouble
> for a month, you probably dont have a problem)
> I used an old MSDOS pgm to backup the partition-table.
> The problem comes up like a thief in the night. It can go unnoticed till
> a program needs a logical drive.
> When I immediately took action, a 'restore partition-table' would solve
> the problem with no loss of data.
> I lost my E: drive (first logical drive) data twice due to delayed action.
> My F: thru H: drives disappeared with it (logical drives).
> I always got F: - H: back with 'restore partition-table'.
>
> NOTE: THIS COULD BE A PROBLEM LIMITED TO VERY FEW SYSTEMS. Dont make it a
> general rule. Install your systems 'as if the problem does not exists'.
> Just take appropriate action should you have the problem.
>
> The general rule is: Use Fdisk-windows for Windows, use fdisk-linux for Linux.
> I suggest to trust Fdisk-windows for ONE partition only.
> The culprit is in the WINxx partition. The trap is set-up by Fdisk-windows.
> When you use fdisk-windows you end up with an Extended partition right after
> the WINxx partition because FDisk-dos does not allow a second primary
> partition, leaving an Extended partition as only choice.
> I dont think I introduced the problem by using fdisk-linux for the extended
> partition, but it IS possible.
>
> The 'end of all your problems' is very near: An old harddisk for WINxx.
> ...................
> (let me put this at the top of my too long msg .... why do we always
> concentrate on problems instead of picking solutions!)
>
> At 01:45 PM 9/30/99 -0400, Richardson, Tony wrote:
> >It sounds as if Linux does not support partitions
> >created by recent versions of DiskManager. (According
> >to ide.txt in the kernel documentation version 6.X of
> >DiskManager is supported. I think version 6.X got around
> >the 512 MB barrier, I suspect the newer version gets around
> >the 8GB barrier.)
> >
> >I'd guess you have two options: (1) Use DM and let Win98
> >have the whole drive and Linux none of it, or (2) remove
> >DM and let Linux and Win98 share the first 8GB leaving
> >the remainder of the drive for Linux alone.
> >
> >Tony
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Simon Gendreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 12:27 PM
> >> To: Herman Aa
> >> Cc: Linux Configuration Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: No space left .. new HD ??
> >>
> >>
> >> What I forgot to mention is ..
> >> LINUX is already running on my machine. It is on my drive /dev/hda5
> >> Swap is /dev/hda6
> >>
> >> Lets put my question in other words ...............
> >> How do I simply partition/format my new 13 Gigs HD so Linux
> >> AND Windows can
> >> read/write to it, whatever I choose to boot as OS on a day to
> >> day basis
> >> ????????????
> >>
> >> Thanks !
> >>
> >> Herman Aa wrote:
> >>
> >> > Simon, 30sep99
> >> >
> >> > When you installed the special driver you created new rules for your
> >> > harddisk environment. Without knowing the special driver
> >> there is not
> >> > much of a discussion.
> >> > You have no problem installing Linux?
> >>
> >> Nop
> >>
> >> > The alternate way is NOT to install the special driver.
> >> > (The instructions with the DiskManager/ special driver are
> >> for the Windows
> >> > environment. It does not necessarily apply to Linux.)
> >> > Leave the disk blank. Do not partition it.
> >> > Or partition only the part you need for Windows. Do not
> >> create an EXTENDED
> >> > partition at this point.
> >> > Leave the remainder of the disk un-partitioned.
> >> >
> >> > When you install Linux from CDROM you will get the harddisk
> >> partitioner of
> >> > Linux.
> >> > Same name 'fdisk' but different from Windows-fdisk.
> >> > See what fdisk-linux can do for you. The Windows-rules are
> >> replaced by
> >> > Linux rules.
> >> > Linux has less restrictions.
> >> > Linux might well partition drives over 8GB. I had no
> >> problems with my 8.6GB
> >> > SeaGate. (Windows had no problems with it either.)
> >> >
>
> ---Herman Aa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >From a mountaintop on Cebu island, Philippines.
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