On 09/06/2010 02:17 PM, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:37:40AM -0400, Miloslav Trmac wrote:
>>
>> I can see almost no overlap between the two sets of requirements.  Probably 
>> the only common use case is handling session keys (e.g. keys used in a 
>> kerberos ticket), which should be stored in the kernel for the duration of 
>> the session, made available to each process in the session, and available as 
>> keys for kernel crypto.  Such keys will be in the minority, though, and it 
>> seems to me the best approach for handling these is to allow key 
>> export/import from/to keyring keys in addition to export/import from/to data 
>> in userspace: the long-term storage would be handled by the existing keyring 
>> API, which stores the key as unformatted binary data, and import into the 
>> crypto context would convert the key into the internal representation more 
>> suitable for crypto.
>>
>> I have seriously considered the keyring API, and this is what I came up with 
>> - but I'd love to be shown a better way.
> 
> FWIW adding a second key management system to the kernel is
> totally out of the question.
> 
> If the existing system doesn't work for you, find a way to build
> on it so that it does.  Adding a second system that pretty much
> does the same thing is unacceptable.
> 
> Also, the key management for secret keys that you've added should
> not be the only mode offered to the user.  Most people do not need
> the separation between key setting and encryption/decryption.

I think this is a misunderstanding. The NCR does not have a keyring. The
only common thing it has with a keyring is the word "key". The fact that
it holds a reference to the key being used for encryption doesn't really
make it a keyring. The kernel Keyring can be used with NCR to store keys
as well as any other keyring.

regards,
Nikos
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