Linux-Development-Sys Digest #759, Volume #6      Tue, 1 Jun 99 07:14:38 EDT

Contents:
  autofs or am-utils, which one? ("G. Hugh SONG")
  Developing device drivers for Linux... ("Chris White")
  Terratec Troubles ("Adam Langley")
  Re: autofs or am-utils, which one? (Jim Roberts)
  Linux development tools... ("Chris White")
  Re: autofs or am-utils, which one? (Stefan Boresch)
  Development Tools? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  kernel vs egcs vs PentiumPro/II (Conrad Sanderson)
  autoconf.h ("Laurent Jacquot")
  traffic-shaping on more than one if? (Birger Toedtmann)
  RE: Terratec Troubles (C Hanish Menon)
  RE: drivers for a Graphics card (C Hanish Menon)
  Problems: Asus P5A / IBM DTTA-351010 (IDE) /fsck (SIGSEGV) (Adrian 
'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder)
  Re: Hostile Takeover of Linux ("Ross Vandegrift")
  Re: uid and gid assignments as distributed (Glen Turner)
  Mixing malloc() and sbrk() safe on Linux? (Jan Wielemaker)
  Re: Mixing malloc() and sbrk() safe on Linux? (Wolfram Gloger)
  YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS!!!  6435 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: DLL's in Linux ? (david parsons)
  Re: Developing device drivers for Linux... (Gerard van der Sel)
  Re: Configuration Manager for Linux (Karl-Heinz Zimmer)

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From: "G. Hugh SONG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: autofs or am-utils, which one?
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:05:21 +0900

On the kernel help page, it has been said that Linux is in the process
of switching to autofs from amd.  However, in the TODO file of autofs,
there are things such as /net support.

Without the functionality of /net, what has been done for autofs?
Which am I supposed to use, amd or autofs?  To me, although 
there is autofs-***.rpm in the RedHat-6.0, it is basically not
working.

What is going on?

Thanks for any info.

-- 
G. Hugh Song

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From: "Chris White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Developing device drivers for Linux...
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:05:37 -0700

I need to develop a device driver for a pointing device which connects to
the PS/2 port.  However, due to proprietary algorithms that I am unable to
release in source code form, I need to be able to distribute my driver in
binary form without having to rebuild the kernel to make it usable.  I have
written several device drivers for Win95/98/NT, OS/2, and Mac.  However I
have zero experience in Linux development.  Can someone tell me whether or
not I can design a driver that will run my device on the PS/2 port and
distribute it in binary form (Intel 80x86 platform) for use in the Linux
community?

Chris




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From: "Adam Langley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Terratec Troubles
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 03:13:03 +0100

Could anyone tell me how to get my EWS64 working in Linux.  I know it runs
with the commercial version of oss but I don't relly want to have to pay
just to get sound on what is currentley my second OS.
Email me on : [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Roberts)
Subject: Re: autofs or am-utils, which one?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 02:36:00 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "G. Hugh SONG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On the kernel help page, it has been said that Linux is in the process
> of switching to autofs from amd.  However, in the TODO file of autofs,
> there are things such as /net support.
> 
> Without the functionality of /net, what has been done for autofs?
> Which am I supposed to use, amd or autofs?  To me, although 
> there is autofs-***.rpm in the RedHat-6.0, it is basically not
> working.
> 
> What is going on?
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> 

Hugh,

Auto fs works very well under both 2.0.36 and under 2.2.9. I have used
it in both kernels. I am able to load local filesystems, ie removable
drives and cdrom and well as nfs mounts. I am using autofs 3.1.3

Jim

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From: "Chris White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux development tools...
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:13:43 -0700

Can anyone suggest some good tools for developing applications for X
Windows?  I come from the Microsoft Windows world and I think Visual C++ has
me spoiled.   :)  Please help so I can break away from the Microsoft grasp.

Chris




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From: Stefan Boresch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: autofs or am-utils, which one?
Date: 01 Jun 1999 08:41:26 +0200


Hm, I guess it would help if you described what exactly you
wanted to do.  I have switched to autofs from amd starting with
RH 5.2.  Under 5.2, I had problems with local auto.master files
reading NIS maps, so I had to hack the /etc/rc.d/init.d/autofs
script.  Under RH 6.0, this works flawlessly.  (For RH 5.2 I
use autofs on both the alpha and i386, RH 6.0 tested on i386
only (so far))

Stefan

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University of Vienna                               FAX:   -43-1-427752790
Waehringerstr. 17                                         -43-1-4028525
A-1090 Vienna, Austria

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Development Tools?
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:47:46 GMT

I'm kind of new to Linux, and wanted to check out what development tools
are available.

Can anyone suggest a package for me?

Thanks

LinuxManiac - a.k.a. John


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conrad Sanderson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: kernel vs egcs vs PentiumPro/II
Date: 1 Jun 1999 06:47:25 GMT

I'm using egcs 1.1.2 - is it a bad idea to modify 
/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/Makefile to have -march=pentiumpro -mcpu=pentiumpro 
instead of -m486 ?

Is there any real reason for the kernel compile options for M586/M686 to 
still have -m486, or is this a gcc 2.7.x compatability thing ?




-- 
Conrad Sanderson - Microelectronic Signal Processing Laboratory
Griffith University, Queensland, Australia
http://hive.me.gu.edu.au/

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From: "Laurent Jacquot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: autoconf.h
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:07:52 +0100

Hi gurus,
I've recently tried to compile xroastcd (a front end to burn cds), and it
didn't due to a missing autoconf.h in the 2.2.9 kernel.
I was wondering about that, because in the headers of the 2.2.5 this file is
there.
What is this header file, what does he provide?

/jk




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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:44:44 +0200
From: Birger Toedtmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: traffic-shaping on more than one if?

Hi,

did anybody try out this nice traffic-shaper under 2.2.x? I know it is
ALPHA, but anyway, i need
to slow down eth traffic on an adaptec-quad-card (4 ports, tulip chips).
NIC works fine, so
i get 4 if's and after loading shaper.o, i wanted to attach shaper0 ->
eth0, shaper1 -> eth1....,
but shapecfg accepts this only once, reporting on followups "device not
ready".

It seems as if shaper.o/shapecfg supports only 1 (!) shaper if, is that
right?

Would be nice if someone would share (not shape=;)) some experiences on
shaper.o and more
than one if, wether it is possible at all etc...

Regards,

Birger

--
                     Birger Tödtmann. Bielefeld, Germany.
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln256%Pln256/snlbx]sb3135071790101768542287578439snlbxq' | \dc
               00 83 E2 57 EC 60 0B 1C  D3 18 AE 2A 40 55 81 22




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From: C Hanish Menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Terratec Troubles
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 08:39:12 GMT

>===== Original Message From "Adam Langley"  =====
>Could anyone tell me how to get my EWS64 working in Linux.  I know it runs
>with the commercial version of oss but I don't relly want to have to pay
>just to get sound on what is currentley my second OS.
>Email me on : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Hi Adam

If your Sound card is Sound Blaster compatible or Windows sound system 
compatible 
try using the sound driver for it. Some cards require you to warm boot from 
windows to
get it initialized to the SB or WSS compatible mode.

Keep :-)
HanishKVC

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From: C Hanish Menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: drivers for a Graphics card
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 08:41:38 GMT

>> I'm looking for a driver to download on Linux System for my Graphics
>> card which is a 740 AGP Intel card. I can't find it anywhere.

Also try www.xfree86.org if u are looking for X Window driver | server.
 Most probably it will be supported by the XF86SVGA server.

Keep :-)
HanishKVC

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Problems: Asus P5A / IBM DTTA-351010 (IDE) /fsck (SIGSEGV)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 08:59:15 GMT

Hullo out there!

This is quite urgent - I would appreciate any help greatly!

I have an Asus P5A (ALI Chipset) with two IBM DTTA 351010 (5400rpm,
10G) set up as masters of both IDE controllers. The Kernel does
switch off BM-DMA at boot - don't ask me why.

Everything on the first disk works just fine (partitions are:
        128M swap
        2G /
        4G /home
        2G /var
        2G /var/log
)

But everything I do on the second harddrive, fsck just segfaults on
me. I can fdisk it, mke2fs it, mount it - works just fine. But once
I start an fsck -> segfault.

I tried changing the mapping (LBA with 1232/255/63 or 'NORMAL' with
19650(?)/16/63) per LILO-append (and fdisking anew afterwards) (FYI:
first disk uses LBA, 1232/255/63). I tried different partition
sizes. I tried using exactly the same filesystems as on the first
disk. segfault on fsck.

Since this will be running as a server, a working fsck is quite
important to me (it'll be some user data on there - if it were news
spool...ln -s /sbin/mke2fs /sbin/fsck :-)

Some system data:=20
        CPU: AMD K6-2 333MHz

        Distro: SuSE 6.1 (fsck 1.14 from stock SuSE rpm; tried
rebuilding with both egcs and gcc-2.7.2.3, though)
        Kernel: 2.2.9 (gcc-2.7.2.3) or stock SuSE IDE-Kernel 2.2.5
                                Greets from over there
                                Dagurashibanipal
                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!

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From: "Ross Vandegrift" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hostile Takeover of Linux
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:03:49 -0400

(This message is in UTF-8 format, due to the nature of an example provided
below.  I imagine that some servers and readers won't be able to read it
properly, because of this.  Sorry.)

>Huh?  What's 8-bit ASCII?  There is no such beast.  256 is the *WRONG*
>answer, always has been and always will be.

No, 256 could be a correct answer, though 8-bit ASCII is properly called
Extended ASCII.  It is charset ISO Latin-1.  It is 8 bits wide, with the
extra
characters used for non-english letters.

>There are 95 printable characters and 33 control characters.

In traditional ASCII (the 7-bit version) there are.  See above.

>If "8-bit is the norm" what is the character with (decimal) code 128?

The charecter `C' with a squiggle under it: (Ç).

A quick web search on Extended ASCII turned up this decent looking page:
http://www.johnco.cc.ks.us/~mfoster/ascii.html

--
Ross Vandegrift
(Who is unable to provide a witty .sig due to being in Windows)



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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:50:25 +0930
From: Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uid and gid assignments as distributed

"H. Peter Anvin" wrote:
> 
> Followup to:  <j%i43.2964$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> By author:    [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Howard)
> In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.development.system
> >
> > Again, I upgrade, and again, uid and/or gid number conflicts.
> >
> > Is there a standard anywhere that indicates what range of uid/gid
> > numbers a distribution/vendor may use, vs. which ones I may use
> > (any administrator) such that I can expect in the future there will
> > never be any conflicts?
> >
> 
> Yes, 0-99 are assigned by the distribution (with 0, of course, being root).

Which was my understanding, then RH6.0 installed xfs as
UID 100 <sigh>

ASAIK there is *no* standard for system UID and GID usage.

We have Linux, FreeBSD, DEC, Sun and HP gear and finding
safe UID ranges is getting so difficult as to be silly.

-- 
 Glen Turner                               Network Specialist
 Tel: (08) 8303 3936          Information Technology Services
 Fax: (08) 8303 4400         The University of Adelaide  5005
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]           South Australia

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Wielemaker)
Subject: Mixing malloc() and sbrk() safe on Linux?
Date: 1 Jun 1999 08:35:54 GMT

I've got an application with a pluggin interface (by loading .so files).
The application claims to be using sbrk() internally and provides
replacements for malloc(), realloc() and free().  My pluggin uses various
libraries that use malloc().

The app claims it doesn't assume sbrk() to grow a contiguous heap.

I know some malloc() libraries can be safely mixed with sbrk() calls
and some not.  I find no hint for GNU-malloc (from glibc 2).  Is there
someone who knows it is (not) safe to mix them on a modern Linux system?

        Thanks --- Jan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jan Wielemaker                Author of SWI-Prolog and the XPCE GUI library
SWI, University of Amsterdam  http://www.swi.psy.uva.nl/projects/SWI-Prolog/
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    http://www.swi.psy.uva.nl/projects/xpce/

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From: Wolfram Gloger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mixing malloc() and sbrk() safe on Linux?
Date: 01 Jun 1999 11:25:52 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Wielemaker) writes:

> I know some malloc() libraries can be safely mixed with sbrk() calls
> and some not.  I find no hint for GNU-malloc (from glibc 2).  Is there
> someone who knows it is (not) safe to mix them on a modern Linux system?

malloc both in Linux libc-5 and glibc-2 is meant to be safe with
regard to foreign sbrk() calls (of course sbrk(-x) must not be called
with x so large that malloc's space is killed).  If you find that it
is not safe to mix, please report it as a bug.

Regards,
Wolfram.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS!!!  6435
Date: 1 Jun 1999 07:59:49 GMT

http://38.201.46.9/index.asp?rs=n52399
 
<a href="http://38.201.46.9/index.asp?rs=n52399">CLICK HERE</a> TO CHECK IT OUT





qtnolzhhoff


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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s  (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: DLL's in Linux ?
Date: 1 Jun 1999 01:15:41 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 30 May 1999 21:44:25 -0400, Richard R Urena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>So I got bored yesterday and ran ldd on all the files in
>>my system.
>>
>>Part of the output reads:
>>
>>      /usr/bin/basic   libm.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26)
>>
>>(BTW, I didn't know I had BASIC on my machine; this is
>>really a dream come true for me.)
>>
>>But anyway, there were several other programs with
>>mention of these "DLL Jump"s
>>
>>What exactly does this mean?
>
>It means that your Linux system is *severely* out of date.

    Oh, really?  Lemme take a look at the ldd output of
    XF86_3DLabs on Mastodon INST0042 (May 15, 1999):

>On a modern Linux system, the output of ldd looks like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]$ ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_3DLabs
        libm.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.6pl28) => /lib/libm.so.4
        libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.7pl2) => /lib/libc.so.4
[EMAIL PROTECTED]$ ls -l /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_3DLabs
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  root  2974734 May 15 23:41 /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_3DLabs

                  ____
    david parsons \bi/ And look!, none of the system programs break when
                   \/        the FSF changes glibc's published interface.

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From: Gerard van der Sel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Developing device drivers for Linux...
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 07:20:15 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chris White wrote:
> 
> I need to develop a device driver for a pointing device which connects to
> the PS/2 port.  However, due to proprietary algorithms that I am unable to
> release in source code form, I need to be able to distribute my driver in
> binary form without having to rebuild the kernel to make it usable.  I have
> written several device drivers for Win95/98/NT, OS/2, and Mac.  However I
> have zero experience in Linux development.  Can someone tell me whether or
> not I can design a driver that will run my device on the PS/2 port and
> distribute it in binary form (Intel 80x86 platform) for use in the Linux
> community?
> 
> Chris
You can make the driver for a specific version of the linux kernel and
distribute that version. In Linux the best way to share your programs is
release them with the sources. With a good make file you can create your
own driver for your own Linux.
For information on this subject see:
Linux Device drivers from Allessandro Rubini (O'Reilly
ISBN:1-56592-292-1)
It is explained in the first 2 chapters
-- 
Met vriendelijke groet,

Gerard van der Sel
Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"De dinosaurussen hadden hun komeet, wij hebben de Windows computer" -
me
"The box said: 'install on Windows 95, NT 4.0 or better'. 
So I installed it on Linux."

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From: Karl-Heinz Zimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Configuration Manager for Linux
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 09:22:03 GMT

Am 31.05.1999, 16:12:36, schrieb "Selious"
zum Thema Re: Configuration Manager for Linux:

> Join the club !!

> I am developing a agent that parses configuration files,
> and allows 'clients' to represent it the way they want.

[many lines erased]

> p.s. the interface and deamon will be GPL, but the (difficult)
> modules like sendmail and my NDS client won't, as I focus on
> cost of ownership for companies (for a hobbyist, manually
> configuring is much more fun !!) which this product should
> reduce.

Hi Selious,

next time it comes to posting something such a 'Join me', could you=20
*please* write the most important part of your message (the license)=20=

at first, will you ?

I am sorry but i am not willing to spend my free time at home to a=20
project that is intended to make money.

( Just in case you think over it again and decide to let the *whole*=20=

project run under GNU General Public License feel free to contact me=20=

via mail. )

    Karl-Heinz    -    posting privately
--=20

"If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows as stereo, then Linux is
 Dolby Pro-Logic Surround Sound with Bass Boost
 and all the music is free."                          Brendan Bradley




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