Linux Gazette Issue 8 was a good intro for me http://nswt.tuwien.ac.at/htdocs/lg/ 
although I still haven't got diald running yet.

Cheers,

Rod

-----Original Message-----
From:   Jerry Keene [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, December 14, 1998 2:25 PM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: Diald Won't Bring Up ppp Interface?

Ed:

Thanks for the suggestion on solving my "bringing up the ppp 
interface" problem when using diald.

Yes, I can ping the RedHat 5.1 box (Ormond) by name even with 
the PPP interface down, and I do have Ormond listed properly in 
the Hosts file.  Otherwise my ISP connections seem to rely 
entirely on actual IP addresses rather than names.

My interface problem seems more fundamental than subtle.  For 
example, I've tried disabling Diald and also disabling automatic 
startup of PPP at boot.

I've then attempted to bring up the PPP interface using command 
line with various commands like "pppd /dev/cua1 connect 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-ppp".  Obviously my syntax is 
wrong since I can't get a working PPP interface using the 
command line?

This seems like a classic example of a relative newbie being too 
protected from things like an interface by a user friendly setup 
(which Redhat is good at) that hides underlying functions.  

Can someone give me a basic primer in bringing up the PPP 
interface from a command line after its disabled from loading at 
boot under RedHat 5.1?

I appreciate Ed's quick reply since I'm new to this list.  I don't like 
to take something for nothing and will gladly contribute as I'm able.

For expertise bartering my main strengths are Netware, Citrix 
Winframe (NT 3.51), Cisco Routers (2500 and 4500), Frame-Relay 
Wide Area Networks and general network engineering.  I'm not as 
far into Linux as I'd like, but have made progress.  Ed's reply to my 
original query listed below.

Thanks.

//jerrykeene

> This sounds to me like pppd (or is it diald?  Never did figure that 
out)
> is wanting to do a name resolve that it can't.  Make certain that
> `hostname` resolves properly without being on-line.  (for example, by
> putting an entry in /etc/hosts for it, or setting it to 'localhost'.)
> 
> At least, that's the solution that worked for me.  My situation was that
> the connect would work just fine the first time for a boot, then it
> wouldn't work after.  In my /etc/ppp/ip-up script (Slackware based), I had
> it change my hostname to the dynamic IP name.  I fixed the problem by
> reseting hostname back to its original value when I dropped the
> connection.
> 
> Ed



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