OK, thanks for the pointer.
I am not trying to upset anyone here, and I want you to know that I do think
that it's great that you are trying to collect information and make it
available to people.
However (of course there's a however!), your site has some characteristics
in common with much of the other online material for Linux: the information
is poorly organized; much of it is so abbreviated as to be not very useful
unless you already know most of it; and some of it is really outdated (for
example, the pointer to the unfortunate "diald mini-howto").
As another example, you discuss port forwarding, but don't mention the port
forwarding modules which exist with the default distribution. Using these
has got to be a lot simpler than trying to recompile the kernel and acquire
and learn yet *another* utility like ipmasqadm. I have yet to find an
application which won't work by using these, but there is almost zero
discussion of them anywhere - and there is no orderly or complete treatment
of them at all.
I apologize for the harshness of this post, but I am not trying to attack
anyone. I really feel that the lack of professionalism in documenting Linux
and its utilities is a threat to the "freeness" of the operating system. If
we don't exert the effort to be more professional (and accurate) in the way
we present information, corporations that will come to control Linux because
they will control the documentation.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
KL Davis
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 12:17 PM
To: Morris Maynard
Subject: Re: IP Masquerading
sorry, http://www.nanux.com/labADV.html#portfwd
> The URL in your post (www.nanux.xom) was incorrect. I did look at
> www.nanux.com. I did not see any info on port forwarding there.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
KL
> Davis
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 1:11 PM
> To: Morris Maynard
> Subject: Re: IP Masquerading
>
> Just wondering...
>
> Do you not agree with my suggestions for setting up port forwarding?
>
> Morris Maynard wrote:
>
> > Er... you may not have to *build* the port forwarding modules - in fact,
> > probably not, if you have the RedHat 6.0 or later and did a server
install
> > or a custom install which included networking stuff. However, you may
have
> > to put "insmod" statements into some startup script (I use rc.local) to
> get
> > the modules loaded. The modules in question are in
> > /lib/modules/2.2.5-15/ipv4. I load them in /etc/rc.d/rc.local as
follows:
> >
> > insmod ip_masq_ftp
> > insmod ip_masq_raudio
> > insmod ip_masq_autofw
> > insmod ip_masq_portfw
> > insmod ppp_deflate
> >
> > echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> > echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr
> >
> > There are other ways to load modules (see man pages for "depmod" and
> > "modprobe" and good luck to you!). You can also re-build the kernel so
> that
> > some of these things are bult-in and don't need to be loaded. If this
> turns
> > out to be the case, you should see a warning message in your boot.log
> file.
> >
> > In order to tunnel into Windows NT VPN networks, I *did* rebuild the
> kernel
> > after using John Hardin's PPTP patch, and then I also load these
modules:
> >
> > insmod ip_gre
> > insmod ip_masq_pptp
> >
> > FWIW - some of the previous messages in this thread are a good example
of
> > why it is often a pretty horrible task to get things working in Linux -
> > outdated, misleading, and incorrect. We need to be more careful if we
are
> > going to be helpful instead of just adding to the trouble.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mr Cornish Rex
> > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 12:14 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: IP Masquerading
> >
> > There are port forwarding modules in the linux kernel sources
> > just enable them in the config and then make modules and make
> > modules_install
> >
> > from there tho your on your own - I dont use them myself!
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, KL Davis wrote:
> > > My site is far from finished, but may offer some help in setting up
> > IPCHAINS and
> > > the newer (kernel 2.4.x) IPTABLES... please let me know if it helps at
> > all?
> > > What I can do to make it bettter? I hope to have everything posted
and
> be
> > > "open" by the first of the year...
> > >
> > > www.nanux.xom
> > >
> > > KL Davis
> > >
> > >
> > > ****************************************
> > >
> > > Tim Coleman wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, Dec 11, 1999 at 11:01:10PM -0500, Jake Colman wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> "Mike" == Mike Jagdis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > >> Hello. I'd like to be able to connect throught my
> masquerading
> > > > > >> machine to a computer behind it. Is there any method of
> doing
> > this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike> Look at ipmasqadm and use either the portfw or mfw
> modules.
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I missing something or is ipmasqadm NOT part of the RedHat
> > distribution?
> > > > > Any idea why not? Are there RPMs for it?
> > > >
> > > > Well, if the Red Hat distribution has a 2.2.x kernel as standard, it
> > > > is likely that it would include ipchains, which supersedes ipmasqadm
> > > > (and which will itself be superseded in 2.4.x).
> > > >
> > > > ipchains, however, does not (at least I think it doesn't) have any
> > options
> > > > for port forwarding, etc. So, I'm not sure what the recommended
> > software
> > > > to use is for forwarding. But, ipmasqadm should be downloadable off
> of
> > > > the Internet. I would recommend a FAQ, but I think any relevant
ones
> > > > are likely quite out of date by now.
> > > >
> > > > ttfn
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
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