* Ingo Molnar <mi...@kernel.org> wrote:

> 
> * Kees Cook <keesc...@chromium.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Linus Torvalds
> > <torva...@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Pavel Machek <pa...@denx.de> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Why is kASLR incompatible with hibernation? We can hibernate have
> > >> 4.3 kernel resume hibernation image of 4.2 kernel (on x86-64, and I
> > >> have patches for x86). Resuming kernel with different randomization
> > >> does not look that much different...
> > >
> > > Oh, I'd absolutely prefer to just allow kaslr together with
> > > hibernation if it actually works.
> > >
> > > Could the people who piped up to say that they actually use
> > > hibernation just try passing in the "kaslr" command line option on
> > > their machine, and see if it works for them? We could just remove the
> > > "no kaslr with hibername" code - or at least limit it to 32-bit for
> > > now..
> > >
> > > Because that would be lovely.
> > 
> > This is where our original investigation of having them coexist ended:
> > https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/15/180
> > 
> > To quote Rafael Wysocki:
> > > We're jumping from the boot kernel into the image kernel.  The virtual 
> > > address
> > > comes from the image kernel, but the boot kernel has to use it.  The only 
> > > way
> > > we can ensure that we'll jump to the right place is to pass the physical 
> > > address
> > > in the header (otherwise we de facto assume that the virtual address of 
> > > the
> > > target page frame will be the same in both the boot and the image 
> > > kernels).
> > >
> > > The missing piece is that the code in swsusp_arch_resume() sets up 
> > > temporary
> > > page tables to ensure that they won't be overwritten while copying the 
> > > last
> > > remaining image kernel pages to the right page frames (those page tables
> > > have to be stored in page frames that are free from the kernel image 
> > > perspective).
> > >
> > > But if the kernel address space is randomized, set_up_temporary_mappings()
> > > really should duplicate the existing layout instead of creating a new one 
> > > from
> > > scratch.  Otherwise, virtual addresses before set_up_temporary_mappings() 
> > > may
> > > be different from the ones after it.
> 
> So as I suggested it in the previous mail, the right solution would be to 
> pass in 
> the randomization seed via a new kasl_seed=xyz boot option, and thus have the 
> same 
> addresses as prior hibernation.
> 
> That should make hibernation work as-is, with very little effort.
> 
> Two details I can think of:
> 
> 1) the new option has to be hidden from /proc/cmdline, due to:
> 
>   triton:~/tip> ll /proc/cmdline
>   -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr  6 23:45 /proc/cmdline
> 
> 2)
> 
> another detail is that the new boot option has to be checked in 
> choose_kernel_location(), to make sure it's done at the right point during 
> bootup. 
> That's a good place to remove it from the boot options string as well.

... and I missed the biggest complication: to solve the chicken and egg problem 
with software_resume() running very late during bootup, software_resume() 
should 
probably kexec() the original kernel image, this time with the kaslr seed set 
in 
the boot parameters.

So it's two bootups...

Thanks,

        Ingo
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