On Wed, 2026-01-21 at 20:58 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2026, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Tue, 2026-01-20 at 09:12 -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2026-01-20 at 08:20 -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2026-01-19 at 23:44 -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 11:26:18AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > > > +  EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKS - Disable file locking on this filesystem. Some
> > > > > > +    filesystems cannot properly support file locking as 
> > > > > > implemented by
> > > > > > +    nfsd. A case in point is reexport of NFS itself, which can't 
> > > > > > be done
> > > > > > +    safely without coordinating the grace period handling. Other 
> > > > > > clustered
> > > > > > +    and networked filesystems can be problematic here as well.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm not sure this is very useful.  It really needs to document what
> > > > > locking semantics nfs expects, because otherwise no reader will know
> > > > > if they set this or not.
> > > > 
> > > > Fair point. I'll see if I can draft something better. Suggestions
> > > > welcome.
> > > 
> > > How about this?
> > > 
> > > +  EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKS - Disable file locking on this filesystem. 
> > > Filesystems
> > > +    that want to support locking over NFS must support POSIX file locking
> > > +    semantics and must handle lock recovery requests from clients after a
> > > +    reboot. Most local disk, RAM, or pseudo-filesystems use the generic 
> > > POSIX
> > > +    locking support in the kernel and naturally provide this capability. 
> > > Network
> > > +    or clustered filesystems usually need special handling to do this 
> > > properly.
> > 
> > Even better, I think?
> > 
> > +
> > +  EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKS - Disable file locking on this filesystem. Filesystems
> > +    that want to support locking over NFS must support POSIX file locking
> > +    semantics. When the server reboots, the clients will issue requests to
> > +    recover their locks, which nfsd will issue to the filesystem as new 
> > lock
> > +    requests. Those must succeed in order for lock recovery to work. Most
> > +    local disk, RAM, or pseudo-filesystems use the generic POSIX locking
> > +    support in the kernel and naturally provide this capability. Network or
> > +    clustered filesystems usually need special handling to do this 
> > properly.
> > +    Set this flag on filesystems that can't guarantee the proper semantics
> > +    (e.g. reexported NFS).
> 
> I think this is quite thorough, which it good ...  maybe too good :-) It
> reminds me that for true NFS compatibility the fs shouldn't allow local
> locks (or file opens!) until the grace period has passed.  I don't think
> any local filesystems enforce that - it would have to be locks.c that
> does I expect.  I doubt there would be much appetite for doing that
> though.
> 

Yeah, I don't see us ever doing that. It'd be a tricky chicken-and-egg
problem, given the demand-driven way that the mountd upcalls work
today. We don't even know that anything is exported until something
asks for it.

> Reviewed-by: NeilBrown <[email protected]>
> 

Thanks!
-- 
Jeff Layton <[email protected]>

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