Hi Linas!
Thanks for your insight on the issue. I happened to chance upon an IBM
brochure which is abt a few months old an I am quoting some parts thereof.
Hope this should add substance to our discussion.
"IBM is strongly committed to Linux through its establishment of key
alliances and the provision opf the most comprehensive service
offereing-hardware, software and technical support."
Linux users _will_ benefit from IBM's wide range of softare and hardware
solutions including :
blah ....
blah....
A linux version of IBM DB2 Universal database. Plans for Lotus
Domino to support Linux
Delivery of IBM's enterprise File system , AFS, on Linux
More PowerPC based systems-IBM RS/6000 43P Models 150 and 260 , and
RS/6000 F50 - to run on
Linux.
The brochure also talks about AIX palnning to render "Linux application
executon environment" support in 2000.
Linas also wrote:
Its possible/likely that IBM nuked support for
> it beacuse:
> 1) it cuts into the aix revenue stream
> 2) "what customer would be crazy enough to buy an rs/6000 and run linux
> on it? wouldn't they want to run the much better aix?" these words I
> quote, straight out of the plannners mouth.
An additional reason would be the new Monterey OS being launched by IBM, an
UNIX system based on the AIX.
Does IBM sell AIX as a part o the RS/6000 or is it bought additionally,
by default ? wqhat are your opinions regarding the usability and performance
of AIX versus Linux especially vis-a-vis IBM HACMP (High availibilty cluster
multiprocessing ) software programs. Especially since Linux SMP is known not
to scale well beyond 4 processors.
Also, I shall check out www.rs6000.ibm.com and let the list knwo if I
find something interesting.
Warmest regards.
Shourya Sarcar
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> It's been rumoured that Shourya Sarcar said:
> >
> > I think we had different semantic analysis.
>
> I think I have the advantage of having worked at IBM, and knowing the
> people who do this stuff. Several years ago, I talked to one of the
> planners about linux on the mainframe, and the conversation drifted off
> to linux/6000. I reiterate, I beleive it works fine on f50/h50's.
> The planner was working on getting some of IBM's high-availability
> cluster tools ported from netfinity+NT to linux/6000. (actually, the
> programmers had already done the port, they hated NT. what he was
> working on was getting the business plan together, getting the sales &
> marketing materials prepared, pushing the beurocratic infrastructure to
> do what it takes to productize.) Of course, its pointless of sell
> software that runs on top of linux/6000 if you don't *also* support
> linux/6000 itself.
>
> Note that having linux/6000 work is not the same as linux running on an
> sp2. Although the hardware is based on the same architecture, there
> are enough differences that its not instantly compatible.
>
> Note that having a running copy of linux/6000 is not the same as
> offering support for it. Its possible/likely that IBM nuked support for
> it beacuse:
> 1) it cuts into the aix revenue stream
> 2) "what customer would be crazy enough to buy an rs/6000 and run linux
> on it? wouldn't they want to run the much better aix?" these words I
> quote, straight out of the plannners mouth.
> 3) perception that there's no demand for this product
> 4) perception that it would cost too much to support it
> 5) it costs millions of dollars to launch a product at IBM. You have to
> print hundreds of thousands of sales brochures, translated into
> dozens of languages, just to let the immense staff of salespeople
> know that linux/6000 exists, and not to look stoopid when a customer
> calls. If 10,000 salesmen each spend one hour learning about
> linux/6000, you've already wasted in excess of $0.5M in salaries alone.
> So, basically, its not worth launching a product unless you think
> you'll make millions of dollars in revenue.
>
> --linas
>
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 11:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: RS6000?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > If you read the article carefully, you will see that it says
absolutely
> > > zero about running linux on rs/6000's or sp/2's
> > >
> > > The article only states that they support linux beowulf clusters
running
> > > on intel (netfinity) platforms.
> > >
> > > fwiw linux should run on f50's and h50's,
> > > but I don't know if its 'officially supported'.
> > >
> > > -- linas
> > >
> > > It's been rumoured that Shourya Sarcar said:
> > > >
> > > > This link should prove useful for settling all doubts ;-)
> > >
> > > like none of them? ;-)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.zdnet.com.au/linux/stories/au0003286.html
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Shourya Sarcar
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: Guido Macchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 5:47 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: RS6000?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > It's been rumoured that Guido Macchi said:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anybody knows if exists a Linux implementation for the IBM
RS6000?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that IBM sells & supports this. Or at least they were
planing
> > > > > to a few years ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > --linas
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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