On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 10:32:32AM +0900, HIDEO YAMAUCHI wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 05:34:00PM +0900, HIDEO YAMAUCHI wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:53:56PM +0900, HIDEO YAMAUCHI wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > There are the following problems to a resource script of current 
> > > > > apache.
> > > > > (http://developerbugs.linux-foundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=1800)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1.A parent process of apache falls.
> > > > 
> > > > You mean fails ...
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 2.In the stop script, child process is not stopped.
> > > > 
> > > > ... and the children are left hanging around.
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 3.Though the process of the parent falls, the child process
> > > > > replies and continues handling it.
> > > > 
> > > > I see your point, it's just strange that nobody ever complained
> > > > about this. Under which circumstances does this happen?
> > > 
> > > When only an owner process failed, it is generated.
> > > can confirm it when downed by a Kill command artificially.
> > >   
> > >   ex. kill -9 ApachePID  
> > 
> > I see. But does that ever happen in normal operation?
> > 
> > Also, isn't it that the children never listen for requests, but
> > they may be handling existing requests or waiting for the parent
> > process to pass one?
> > 
> > In the former case, perhaps it's a good idea to let them finish:
> > given the nature of http they will be short-lived and the user
> > experience is going to be better. I think that these should not
> > be killed and they are going to leave anyway, probably within a
> > subsecond period.
> > 
> > As for the latter, those are the preforked processes for faster
> > start. I'm not sure what happens to them, but the important
> > question is if they would prevent the new apache instance from
> > starting. I guess not. At the worst case, they may just remain
> > and be swapped out until some merciful soul removes them.
> > 
> > Can somebody who's experience apache administrator help here?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Dejan
> 
> Probably I think that do not get up by the normal operation.
> 
> But, it is a problem to fail in the reboot of the resource in the same node 
> by this child process.
> The failure of the reboot of this resource continues till child process stops.
> 
> It is the problem that may be hard to happen, but thinks that I am effective.

OK. I'll evaluate the patch and apply it.

Cheers,

Dejan

> Regards,
> Hideo Yamauchi.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > > I made a patch to stop all processes.
> > > > > Evaluate this patch, and please include it.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the patch!
> > > > 
> > > > Dejan
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Hideo Yamauchi.
> > > > 
> > > > 
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