Hi,

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 01:26:12PM +0100, Johan Hoeke wrote:
> Dejan Muhamedagic wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 12:19:55AM +0100, Johan Hoeke wrote:
> >> LS,
> >>
> >> Running a 2 node cluster, heartbeat-2.1.3-3 centos rpms, RH AS 4.6
> >>
> >> While testing a "maintenance scenario" for the cluster I set all
> >> resources to is_managed is false,
> >> and proceeded to shut oracle by hand, oracle being one of the resources.
> >>
> >> Within minutes, the node was stonithed. The log shows that this was
> >> right after the monitor operation for the oracle resource came back with
> >> return code 7:
> >>
> >> Conclusion: the monitor operation was still running even though the
> >> resource was unmanaged, and it forced a fencing action.
> > 
> > Oops. So there's an on_fail=fence for this monitor operation. Is
> > that necessary?
> 
> We want the cluster to failover if oracle breaks for whatever reason.
> At least I think we do ;)

But failing over is not the same as fencing. Why would you fence
a cooperating node.

Thanks,

Dejan

> We're discussing exactly how we want the
> cluster to behave. This question is more about understanding why the
> cluster behaved this way.
> 
> > 
> >> I then made a script which in addition to changing the resources to
> >> is_managed = false also set the monitor operations to disabled=true.
> >> This worked, now I am able to shutdown oracle by hand without a fencing
> >> action starting up.
> >>
> >> Questions:
> >>
> >> It this expected behavior? Should monitor operations keep running even
> >> though the resources are set to is_managed=false?
> > 
> > Yes. There was some discussion about it and the majority of
> > votes went this way, i.e. that monitoring should continue even
> > for the unmanaged resources.
> 
> OK, thanks for the clarification Dejan!
> > 
> >> Is explicitly setting
> >> the monitor operations to disable=true the "right way" to prevent
> >> unwanted fencing actions during cluster maintenance?
> > 
> > I'd say yes. But note that I was also in favour of having
> > monitoring disabled by default.
> 
> noted ;)
> 
> and thanks again for your help.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Johan
> 
> 



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