Hi,

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:29:10PM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 August 2010 23:29, Greg Woods wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 20:01 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> >
> > > That aside, the real problem for me is I haven't seen V2-style docs that
> > > actually made sense yet.
> >
> > I found the clusterlabs documents useful, but I too had to learn much
> > through the school of hard knocks. This is fairly typical of open source
> > projects; geeks want to code, not write documentation, so often the
> > documentation does not keep up with the code.
> 
> What's typical of open source projects is "let's fork heartbeat so we'll know 
> exactly what pieces we need and how they work because we wrote 'em". Aka "if 
> you want something done right, DIY".
> 
> I'm sure clusterlabs docs worked someone (at least for the person who wrote 
> them). Ditto for linbit docs, linux-ha docs, howtoforge docs, centos wiki... 
> it's not like there's shortage of docs out there. 

Yes, there seem to be quite a few to choose from.

> It's that heartbeat project was split into resource manager and 
> communications 
> layer so we're not supposed to use heartbeat (-3.0.3) anymore, right?

Heartbeat works with Pacemaker. I mean, the other way around.

> We're 
> supposed to use this new hotness available in BumTicker-0.9, OpenAches-1.0, 
> and Coronary-1.1 (choose any 2), depending on which 3-rd party repos you've 
> added to your pacakage manager config. 
> 
> Plus cluster-glue, cluster-libs, glue-libs, cluster-cluster, glue-glue, and 
> libs-libs installed for dependencies in 64 and 32-bit versions.

Yeah, we definitely need libs-libs too.

> Of course what you end up with doesn't match any documentation out there. 
> It'd 
> be surprising if it did.

Definitely, given this many projects and packages.

On the plus side, there are more people available creating the mess.

Thanks,

Dejan

> Dima
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