On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Lars Ellenberg
<lars.ellenb...@linbit.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 04:04:56PM +0200, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>> > Still, we may get a spurious failover in this case:
>> >
>> > reachability:
>> >   +++++++++_____++++++++++++_____________________________
>> > Node A monitoring intervals:
>> >        +    -    +    +    +    -    -    -    -    -
>> > Node B monitoring intervals:
>> >     +    +    -    +    +    -    -    -    -    -
>> > "dampening" interval:         |---------|
>> >
>> > Note how the "dampening" helps to ignore the first network "glitch".
>> >
>> > But for the "permanent" network problem, we may get spurious failover:
>>
>> Then your dampen setting is too short or interval too long :-)
>
> No.
> Regardless of dampen and interval setting.
>
> Unless both nodes notice the change at the exact same time,
> expire their dampen at the exact same time,

This is where you've diverged.
Once dampen expires on one node, _all_ nodes write their current value.

> and place their updated
> values into the CIB at exactly the same time.
>
> If a "ping node" just dies, then one node will always notice it first.
> And regardless of dampen and interval settings,
> one will reach the CIB first, and therefor the PE will see the
> connectivity change first for only one of the nodes, and only later for
> the other (once it noticed, *and* expired its dampen interval, too).
>
> Show me how you can work around that using dampen or interval settings.
>
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