On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 12:17:48PM -0400, Soffen, Matthew wrote:
> Lars, 
> 
> Did you go to the links ?
> 
> http://linux-ha.org/FAQ#heavy_load - Leads to a page with a watermark "This 
> web page is no longer maintained.  The information presented here exists only 
> to avoid breaking historical links"

   [I know, I myself put that sign there ;)
   after others made the decision to abandon that
   transcluded-from-MoinMoin-wiki-site, and move to mediawiki.]

Still, "unmaintained" does not mean wrong, does it?
He is using a historical version of heartbeat, right?
These links in the log are _exactly_ those historical links that
watermark talks about.

The SplitBrain page even has been moved (and redirects to) the
current mediawiki, you end up at http://linux-ha.org/wiki/SplitBrain

BTW, The FAQ page as well, though apparently there the redirect was not
implemented, because the new FAQ page does only mention a select few
of the "historical" questions.

http://linux-ha.org/wiki/FAQ#Heavy_Load

...

> If they unclear, could you point out where,
> and how can we improve the wording so it will be clear?
> 
> 
> Anyways, if your intention was to test node failure, you should test
> node failure, not total cluster communication breakdown aka split-brain,
> which is what you do here.
> 
> 
> If your intention actually was to test split-brain,
> you should be aware of the implications, and what to expect.
> 
> 
> The only remotely useful thing heartbeat in haresources mode can
> do to recover from a split brain is to stop everything, everywhere, and
> restart from scratch.
> 
> Which is what you observe here.
> 
> crm mode, aka Pacemaker won't handle this so much differently: it will
> restart all resources and dependencies that seem to run more often than
> they should, according to the then merge configuration.
> 
> To avoid split brain, you need to implement fencing,
> typically that means stonith.
> 
> You should also read http://ourobengr.com/ha

Cheers,

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