Hi Terry.

 > The HAM-HOWTO was initially designed to promote awareness of
 > Linux as a computing platform ideal for amateur radio software
 > and development. The LDP HOWTO format was adopted because it was
 > widely known and there were no other mechanisms to fill the role
 > of collating lists of software available.

 > We've moved on and things have changed.

Nodz...

 > There are a few reasons why I'd like to abandon the HAM-HOWTO in
 > its current form. They are:

 > 1> The LDP is restructuring and it is likely that a document
 > rationalisation process will soon take place. The HAM-HOWTO does
 > not technically meet the requirements of a HOWTO document, it is
 > a catalog, a list, call it what you like, but it isn't a HOWTO.
 > It doesn't provide you with details steps on how to do
 > something.

The best one could say in this regard is that it provides details of
HOWTO find software related to Amateur Radio...

 > 2> Other mechanisms do now exist. The Linux community at large
 > has built mechanisms for announcing/cataloging/advertising
 > software. There is no good reason why we should not use these
 > mechanisms too. Examples are http://freshmeat.net/ and the Linux
 > Software Map.

Also, a website on the subject would probably do a better job of
things than a document hidden away in some obscure directory where
people don't in general expect to find suchlike lists...

 > 3> The idea of the HAM-HOWTO was that it would be a community
 > generated document. That is, people would volunteer information
 > about new software as it is developed and/or found. To their
 > credit, some people have contributed, but I don't think enough
 > have to call it a successful collaborative exercise.

I suspect that's largely because many were unaware of its existence.
I'd been using Linux for nearly a year before I even discovered that
HOWTO documents existed, and for considerably longer before I came
across that particular HOWTO. It's just not the sort of thing I had
expected to find therein.

 > 4> I think it's time that the Linux/Ham community realised that
 > we cannot afford to remain an insular community. We are part of
 > the larger Linux community just as much as we are part of the
 > larger amateur radio community.

 > I see plenty of examples of a tendency amongst hams to only want
 > to deal with hams on linux matters, this is inefficient and
 > somewhat silly - the use of the linux-hams mailing list for
 > non-amateur-radio related questions is prime.

I have to agree with this...

 > To this end, I'd like to hear your opinion on what the best
 > alternative solution to the problem of how to enable people to
 > find amateur radio software for Linux.

 > Some ideas that I have are:

 > 1> Use freshmeat.net

 > 2> Provide a web site, like Joops, and extend it such that it is
 > able to automatically produce textual catalogs that could be
 > posted periodically on usenet/mailing lists etc. for those that
 > don't have interactive net access, and all else could use the
 > web site when they're looking for software.

3> Provide a search engine similar to http://ftpsearch.ntnu.no that
specialises in amateur radio software, or persuade the existing
software search engines to include a specific category for amateur
radio related software.

 > 4> your idea here.

Best wishes from Riley.

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