On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> And once upon a time ham operators were helpful people
> Could I refer you some of the Linux Hams to the Amateur Code as 
> published in the ARRL handbook for many years.
> The Radio Amateur is 
> CONSIDERATE
> LOYAL
> PROGRESSIVE
> FRIENDLY
> BALANCED
> PARRIOTIC.
> 
> A couple of replies to Marks VK3JMA plea for help certainly did not 
> meet the critera needed to be an Amateur.

Ok. Maybe the correct answer to the original plea would then be: "Mark,
this list is not meant for such questions. Please consider subscribing to
linux-newbies and asking there. Or perhaps Red Hat might be able to answer
your question; there should be pointers to the correct place to ask
somewhere in your distributions documentation." How does that sound?

> I am like Mark becoming involved with Linux simply to apply the 
> new skill to my entertainment in amateur radio. This is the only 
> group to which I subscribe and had assumed if I had a Linux 
> question my fellow amateurs may be able to assist.

Obviously you assumed wrong.

Perhaps you are also a newbie in Internet? The purpose of this mailing
list was sent to you when you subscribed. After a few years of Internet
experience you will understand why it is rather important to stick to the
meant purpose of a mailing list.

> Another point I get the feeling you guru's just what your private little 
> club, well consider the demise of the RF side of the hobby primarily 
> because of such attitudes. How many amateur controlling bodies 
> are in a growth mode.??

No clubs here. It's a question of simple practicalities. I receive ~100
emails a day from several mailing lists. Some get more. If the signal to
noise ratio drops too low on a list, I simply have to unsubscribe. Maybe I
wouldn't be such a loss to this list but it would be yet another one,
possibly having answers to relevant questions, off the list. A few
off-topic posting every now and then doesn't really hurt, but they should
be firmly discouraged.

Believe me, a lot of the real guru's have already unsubscribed. And not
because they feel they're somehow superior to you. It's because of
practicalities.

> Let remember the Amateur code maybe  even dust of the old 
> handbook and reread it might make you all think to engage brain 
> before tapping the fingers.

I remember the time when the Internet used to be a place for educated and
conciderate people. The code used to be "listen before transmitting". The
so called netiquette (which almost was required reading before getting
access to the Net) was truly understood and obeyed. Everybody would
carefully observe if a given mailing list or news group was really the one
to ask his or her question. Oh, those were the days.

Sounds familiar? It should. The only difference is that here you can not
transmit over someone else. But you can transmit in a completely wrong
place. The consequences are just as "bad".

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Tomi Manninen           Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OH2BNS                  AX.25:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KP20ME04                Amprnet:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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