Linux-Hardware Digest #39, Volume #9             Sun, 27 Dec 98 22:13:31 EST

Contents:
  Re: WinModems - any work being done for Linux? (Mike Werner)
  Re: What is good video board for OpenGL? (Mike Westall)
  Re: When will kernel 2.2 be released? (erikc)
  Re: Moodems that will transmit at 56k? (erikc)
  Re: zip detected as cdrom (erikc)
  Wacom Intuos tablet + linux = trouble (Giovanni Gigante)
  kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Dual channel SCSI card for Linux? ("Ben Goble, Lakewood Colorado")
  Re: Getting soundcard work (Tim Kelley)
  AMD K62-3d and 2.0.36 (Tim Kelley)

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From: Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WinModems - any work being done for Linux?
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:45:46 -0500

Colin Brough wrote:
> of WinModems is that all the hardware is there, it should (in theory)
> just be a case
> of writing the right software... admittedly very low level, but...

If only it were that simple ...  Unfortunately, in their infinite
wisdom, Winmodems have been so lobotomized that some of the hardware is
no longer on the board.  Noticed that "HSP" designation on most
winmodems?  Stands for "Host Signal Processing" - fancy way of saying
that particular part of the modems job has been shunted to your CPU. 
And that part of the job is the biggest part of a modem's job.  In
essence, a winmodem is no more than a slightly modified soundcard. 
Nearly all the modem specific hardware has been removed.  That's why
they're so cheap.  Literally *and* figuratively.
-- 
Mike Werner  KA8YSD           |  "Where do you want to go today?"
ICQ# 12934898                 |  "As far from Redmond as possible!"
AIM Screen Name Reznaeous     |
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Morgantown WV                 |

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From: Mike Westall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: What is good video board for OpenGL?
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 19:55:40 -0500

Mike Westall corrects Mike Westall:

Upon further review of Metrolink's Web site one finds:

"At this time Metro OpenGL only has software acceleration.
 A hardware-accelerated version is in development now and will be available in
the
 coming months. The current target is end of 1998. Please see the Press
Release section of
 this site for more information.

 All owners of Metro OpenGL with software acceleration will receive a free
upgrade to the
 hardware accelerated version when it is available.

 Since the video card market changes rapidly, it is not possible to determine
which specific
 cards or chipsets will be supported for hardware acceleration at this time. "

A collaborative effort involving Precision Insight and Red Hat is announced on
the
XFree Web site but availability appears --WAY-- out.


Mike Westall wrote:

> I think your main constraint is software availability rather than card
> availability.
> AFAIK the only OpenGL software that uses hardware acceleration is
> Metrolink's:
>
> http://www.metrolink.com/productindex.html
>
> They seem to support a large number of cards, but their product is not open
> source
> and does cost about $200.  Mesa provides a free, open-source, OpenGl
> workalike
> but I don't know of any generally available accelerated back-ends for Mesa.
>
> Mike Westall
> Professor of Computer Science
> Clemson University
> Clemson SC 29634 USA
>
> > What are the best choices for video boards that support OpenGL
> > under Linux for under $500?   Thanks.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Chuck Anderson                    associate professor
> > Department of Computer Science    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Colorado State University         http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~anderson
> > Fort Collins, CO 80523-1873       office: 970-491-7491, FAX: 970-491-2466




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (erikc)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: When will kernel 2.2 be released?
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:27:18 GMT

On 27 Dec 1998 17:43:24 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Filip M. Gieszczykiewicz) wrote:
-- origin: comp.os.linux.hardware:
>|In Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, through puissant locution, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harry McGregor) soliloquized:
>|>Last I heard it the 2.1.xx kernels were up the M$ quality (about
>|>125), and are not quite up to linux quality.  If you need things that
>|
>|Huh? My .96pl2 was up about M$ quality.... ;)
>|
>|(what scares the crap out of me is the Navy moving their fleet from
>|[stable] unix systems to NT... [shivvvvvver])

I read about that.  I just hope the Navy learned its lesson.  I
believe the motivation for the switch over to NT was that the Navy
wanted to get away from custom one-off hardware and software and move
over to stuff they could get "anywhere".  Somehow, the brass seemed to
overlook the the minor detail that the Navy's needs are one hell of a
lot different than the needs of someone running a business.

Maybe they should try Linux.  ;-)

http://www.ethepeople.com/etp/affiliates/national/fullview.cfm?ETPID=0&PETID=74386&ETPDIR=affiliates/national

has a petition you can sign if you want to nudge the gov't into
considering open source software.





Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil." 
                         |      "The Truth against the World."
                         |                           -- Bardic Motto
If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.
   ---- Noam Chomsky

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (erikc)
Subject: Re: Moodems that will transmit at 56k?
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:27:20 GMT

On Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:52:14 +0100
Bernd Harries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-- origin: comp.os.linux.hardware:
>|Dae wrote:
>|
>|> Anyone know what kind of modems that ISPs are using that transmit at
>|> 56K? 
>|
>|No. They don't use Modems at all. They use ISDN access routers which
>|emulate Modems if a V.xx modem dials in or render special waveforms if
>|56k modems dial in. They have e.g. 30 lines at once. Check out Ascend,
>|Cisco or 3com.
>|
>|In any case they output 8000 octetts/sec a 8 bits of info. This can
>|either be a value my ISDN adapter receives or an amplitude
>|representation for an D/A converter close to you.
>|
>|Technically 56k modems are detours. Like feeding a video signal into a
>|TV via the antenna connector: Artificial deformation of good signals.
>|
>|On a simple twisted 2 wire line ISDN transfers 144 KBIT of data in each
>|direction netto. Plus sync overhead etc! ADSL makes even much more out
>|of the same primitive cable and the asymetry makes very much sense.
>|
>|> Whatz the diff from the modems we can buy and the ones they get?
>|
>|You can buy an ISDN card, the Hagenuk Speed Dragon, ACER T30..T50,
>|Fritz!xPC, Elsa, Motorola, Zyxel and many other ISDN data Adapters.
>|You can also buy bigger ISDN routers.
>|
>|> Seems that alot of ISPs use the same
>|> modems that we the public buy, but when you look at the specs  it says'
>|> receive at 56k but send max is 33.6k. 
>|
>|
>|> Why is that, what are they using
>|> that will allow them you send at 56k?
>|
>|They do send 64000 bits/sec! 56k is the absolute theoretical maximum
>|that arrives at you. 44 or 46 k is more realistic.
>|
>|If I watch kpppload during a connect my transferred amount of data is
>|1/10 to 1/100 of my RX ammount. I simply don't have so much to say. Only
>|small ACK packets and requests leave my place, 2400 baud would by far be
>|enough for that. And I have Euro ISDN. So 98% of my 64000 bit/s TX
>|channel are unused. :-( 
>|Want to rent it for DM 2,- per month? ;-))

What is your actual billing (ISDN, time on line, etc) on a monthly
basis.  Here in the US, you have to pay an arm and a leg (something
like US$60/month) for the service, it isn't that great, and it is not
available in some areas.



Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil." 
                         |      "The Truth against the World."
                         |                           -- Bardic Motto
If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.
   ---- Noam Chomsky

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (erikc)
Subject: Re: zip detected as cdrom
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:27:21 GMT

On 23 Dec 1998 15:36:02 PST
"Misterfixit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-- origin: comp.os.linux.hardware:
>|Please tell me what is the Click of Death.


http://www.grc.com/clickdeath.htm  tells all about it.




Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil." 
                         |      "The Truth against the World."
                         |                           -- Bardic Motto
If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.
   ---- Noam Chomsky

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Giovanni Gigante)
Subject: Wacom Intuos tablet + linux = trouble
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:46:02 GMT


Hi,
has anyone managed to succesfully install one of those new "Intuos"
graphics tablet from Wacom? (I have the A5 size, that is 6"x9").
I have tried everything with XInput (after having read all the docs I
have found around) but still it does not work; I suspect the newer
tablet are not perfectly compatible with the driver, or maybe I am
doing something wrong...
If anyone is using an Intuos tablet under XFree86, can (s)he e-mail me
some info, maybe his/her XF86Config ?
 
Thanks,
Giovanni Gigante

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:15:40 GMT

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone knows what these errors may mean. They are from
/var/log/messages and it looks like the problems started happening when our
nightly backup started (its backs up stuff from other machines on the network
on one of the 12GB RAID drives first)

This is Red Hat 5.2 (kernel 2.0.36 with SMP support) which has 6 RAID disks
with the total of 24 GB, split in 2 filesystems:

Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/sda1             303251  178868   108722     62%   /
/dev/sda5            3664445 1046288  2428592     30%   /usr
/dev/sdb1            4113672 1971754  1929059     51%   /ndx1
/dev/sdc1            12291139 2494760  9157814     21%   /ndx2 <== RAID
/dev/sdd1            12291139 5484463  6168111     47%   /ndx3 <== RAID

it looks like something thinks there is more disk space than there really is
on those RAIDs....

errors:

Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Dec 27
03:57:35 ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=0, want=2135178628, limit=12771312 Dec 27
03:57:35 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing
blocks not in datazone - block = 1962936323, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx
kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in
datazone - block = 2134941967, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs
error (device 08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone -
block = 1086785539, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error
(device 08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block =
2417879808, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device
08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block =
2134906251, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device
08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block =
1017186307, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device
08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 688391039,
coun t = 1 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 08:31):
ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 49856976, count  =
1 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 08:31): ext2_free_blocks:
Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 58721421, count  = 1 Dec 27 03:57:35
ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks
not in datazone - block = 58672133, count  = 1 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel:
attempt to access beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: 08:31:
rw=0, want=2084735241, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: attempt to
access beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=0,
want=1703794826, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: attempt to access
beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=0,
want=1600019445, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: attempt to access
beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:35 ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=0,
want=2135178628, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:36 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error
(device 08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block =
2963096775, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:36 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device
08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block =
3030205639, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:36 ndx kernel: attempt to access beyond
end of device Dec 27 03:57:36 ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=0, want=949830856,
limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:36 ndx kernel: attempt to access beyond end of
device Dec 27 03:57:36 ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=0, want=956613508,
limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:37 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 08:31):
ext2_free_inode: bit already cleared for inode 1609912 Dec 27 03:57:40 ndx
modprobe: can't locate module block-major-80 Dec 27 03:57:46 ndx kernel:
attempt to access beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:46 ndx kernel: 08:31:
rw=0, want=2038503029, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:46 ndx kernel: attempt to
access beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:46 ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=0,
want=2038503029, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: attempt to access
beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=0,
want=1457883478, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error
(device 08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block =
140348243, coun t = 1 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device
08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block =
2332839307, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device
08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block =
3380940917, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device
08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 59450236,
count  = 1 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 08:31):
ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 2114996281, cou nt
= 1 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Dec 27
03:57:48 ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=0, want=877693725, limit=12771312 Dec 27
03:57:48 ndx kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:48
ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=0, want=227083406, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx
kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel:
08:31: rw=0, want=881410309, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel:
attempt to access beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: 08:31:
rw=0, want=1457883478, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs
error (device 08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone -
block = 2425407793, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: EXT2-fs error
(device 08:31): ext2_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block =
1008288967, cou nt = 1 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: Kernel panic: EXT2-fs
panic (device 08:31): load_block_bitmap: block_group >= groups_count -
block_group  = 524287, groups_count = 1559 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx kernel: Dec 27
03:57:48 ndx kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Dec 27 03:57:48
ndx kernel: 08:31: rw=1, want=491046724, limit=12771312 Dec 27 03:57:48 ndx
kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Dec 27 06:30:53 ndx syslogd
1.3-3: restart.

any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

Otis

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Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:48:47 -0700
From: "Ben Goble, Lakewood Colorado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual channel SCSI card for Linux?



Pieter Krul wrote:

> Ben Goble, Lakewood Colorado wrote:
> >I an trying to find a dual channel wide SCSI controller
> >that will work with Linux.  I purchased a Mylex (BusLogic)
> >KT-952 but have had no end of problems with it.
> The BT-952 is quite supported under Linux.
> From /usr/src/linux/drivers/scsi/README.Buslogic:
>
> SUPPORTED HOST ADAPTERS
>
> FlashPoint DW (BT-952)  Dual Channel Wide Ultra SCSI-3
> FlashPoint DW (BT-952R) Dual Channel Wide Ultra SCSI-3 with RAIDPlus
> [among with 30 or so other cards]
>
> I use the BT-932R myself, and it worked after adding support
> to the kernel.

Thanks for the feed back.I was told by Mylex that *all* the BT-952
boards come with RAID now.They also come with VHDCI external connectors
(also known as
SCA connectors) which means I can not use my old MD-50 cable.
I use Granite Digital cables and the cable for the KT-952 cost $129.
I also had to flash this KT-952 to an older BIOS - Mylex tech
support said that doing this fixes problems that many users are
having.  The software that came with the board would not work
and Mylex tech support said that this was a known problem.

I guess I'll wait for Mylex tech to get back (Jan 4, 99) but sofar
I am underwelmed by this controller.


--
Ben Goble  Lakewood,  Colorado  USA
bgoble at uswest dot net  bgoble at nyx dot net
A Stranger and a Pilgrim on the Earth

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From: Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Getting soundcard work
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:25:34 -0600

Mike Thoreson wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hi, folks!
> >
> > I've got a Ensoniq PCI Audio card.

> I have a Creative PCI 64 which for all practical purposes is the same card. If
> you go the kernel route, you need one of the recent kernels that have support
> for that card.  I've tried 2.1.119, 2.1.124, 2.1.128 and 2.1.131. I would
> recommend 2.1.131. The most recent stable kernel 2.0.36 doesn't have support for
> that card. 

Well, I have 2.0.36 and the Audio PCI (1370) works fine, so does the
1371 at work. However, I cannot get any midi for the life of me.  I have
an external synth plugged into the soundcard; but I'm not sure whether
the sound card actually has a hardware MPU-401 or not.  It seems that it
doesn't.  Has ANYONE gotten the midi on an Ensoniq Audio PCI to work
under linux?

--
Tim Kelley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Orleans, LA

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From: Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AMD K62-3d and 2.0.36
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:29:47 -0600

Is anyone running 2.0.x with an AMD?  I have an intel P233 now, I am
considering switching.  Is the K62 worth getting?

Also, it seems my kernel's already been "optimised" for intel 586 ...
will it boot if I plug an AMD in, or should I recompile first?

--
Tim Kelley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Orleans, LA

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