Linux-Hardware Digest #964, Volume #9             Thu, 8 Apr 99 06:13:44 EDT

Contents:
  Emachines & linux (Dean Pan)
  Re: Celeron Multiplier Q: ("M.C. van den Bovenkamp")
  Re: FireWire / IEEE1394-support in Linux? (James Stafford)
  Re: X terminal? (Lee Wei Shun)
  Re: problem with X and ATI Rage Magnum (Rage 128 GL AGP) (Tim Moore)
  Re: Logitech First Mouse+ (Tim Moore)
  Re: Idea:  Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (who?)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Roland 
Paterson-Jones)
  SCSI Tape drive, Linux ??? Info where ??? ("Richard F. Jr.")
  Can't install RH5.2 ("rock")
  cs432x sound card problems (Stefan)
  PCCOM Intelligent 8 Port (Storath Julius)
  Re: free computer12 ("Dru")
  Re: Serial Keyboard (Lee Wei Shun)
  Re: cs432x sound card problems (**Nick Brown)
  Re: free computer (Fedor Solodovnik)
  qmail can only send, but not receive (digger)
  Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (John Thompson)
  Q: ES1879 Soundchip in Compaq Notebook ? (Michael Glombitza)
  Re: Why is Linux "UNIX Like" & tty's (William Burrow)
  Re: S3 Virge AGP (Jarl Friis)
  Do they work - High performance RS232 serial cards? ("John Seymour")

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From: Dean Pan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Emachines & linux
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 00:09:52 -0700

I am thinking of getting an $399 Emachine 300K to run linux.  Has anyone
experience any problem with this machine?  Emachine in general?  Thanks!

Dean



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From: "M.C. van den Bovenkamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Celeron Multiplier Q:
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:17:17 +0200

Tim Moore wrote:

> BIOS upgrade may be required, but nothing architecturally in the 440LX chipset
> prevents it.

Indeed it doesn't. I'm running a Celeron 400 on a 440LX-chipset
motherboard (an Asus MEL-C) quite happily.

                Regards,

-- 
                        Marco van den Bovenkamp.

        CIO EMEA Network Design Engineer,

        Lucent Technologies Nederland.
        Room: HVS BZK 32
        Tel.: (+31-35-687)2724
        Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: James Stafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FireWire / IEEE1394-support in Linux?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 00:30:52 -0700

Tim Moore wrote:

> > Is there FireWire/IE1394- support in the latest Linux kernels?
>
> Didn't make 2.2.  Check www.kernel.org for 2.[3-4].x kernel support.
> --
> [Replies: add tim in front]
>
> "Everything is permitted.  Nothing is forbidden."
>                                    WS Burroughs.

I thought I just read somewhere that Apple has made firewire an open
standard.

jamess


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From: Lee Wei Shun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X terminal?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:44:59 +0800

An E-machine is a specialised X-term.

> > Good, cheap, fast.  Pick any 2.

Actually, pick all three, if you can get your hands on an old sparc.
Nice 19" monitors. Runs Linux. Great X-terminal. Doesn't require a hard
disk, floppy or much RAM either, net-boots off the host *nix box.

See:  http://linuxcentral.com/linux/lg/issue27/little.html

for the full details.

Regards,
Lee Wei Shun
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chris Evich wrote:
> 
> I'm not looking for a monitor, I know you can't get a good, cheap, fast
> one of those :)  What I'm looking for is the X terminal box (which I
> would then plug a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, into).  I used to use
> one with X on HP-UX and was wondering if there is a box that works with
> linux.  What is this E-Machines thing?
> 


-- 
"It's still ludicrous that nobody's ever made a run at us by making UNIX
 a popular platform on PCs.  It's almost too late now."  -- Steve Balmer
"It is too late."   -- Bill Gates             _Newsweek_, 6/23/97, p. 82

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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:46:04 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with X and ATI Rage Magnum (Rage 128 GL AGP)

If this is an nVidia RIVA TNT chipset, the SVGA server works great.

[23:44] asus:~ > rpm -qa | grep XF
XFree86-VGA16-3.3.3-1
XFree86-Xvfb-3.3.3-1
XFree86-Xnest-3.3.3-1
XFree86-SVGA-3.3.3-1
XFree86-XF86Setup-3.3.3-1
XFree86-libs-3.3.3-1
XFree86-75dpi-fonts-3.3.3-1
XFree86-100dpi-fonts-3.3.3-1
XFree86-3.3.3-1
XFree86-devel-3.3.3-1


Jeremy Eglen wrote:
> 
> Are there any (public domain) drivers that work with the Rage Magnum under
> XWindows? Not even the standard VGA or SVGA X servers appear to work.
> 
> I am running RedHat 5.2 with a Sony 19" monitor.
> 
> thanks in advance,
> Jeremy

-- 
[Replies: add tim in front]

"Everything is permitted.  Nothing is forbidden."
                                   WS Burroughs.

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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:52:48 -0700
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Logitech First Mouse+

http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll is for XF86Config and .Xdefaults,
imwheel is a separate program.  I use both.

> > Tim Moore wrote:
> >
> > > http://solaris1.mysolution.com/~jcatki/imwheel/
> > > http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/#rxvt
> >
> > Cool, got the program and it works great.
> 
> Which link did you use or do they both point to the same program?

-- 
[Replies: add tim in front]

"Everything is permitted.  Nothing is forbidden."
                                   WS Burroughs.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (who?)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Idea:  Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: 8 Apr 1999 08:35:58 GMT

Rod Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:       Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: > wizard wrote:
: >> 
: >> On top of adding value the strengthen the Linux code base by
: >> setting things like RPM free.
: >>
: > RPM is a good package manger, but it is *not* essential. I've been
: > running Linux for years without it.

: True, but that wasn't the claim, either.  The claim is that Linux is
: strengthened by RPM.  I agree with that statement.

: >> The other key item that everyone overlooks is the large amount
: >> of effort the people at RedHat, Suse and others put into driver
: >> development. If that does add value I don't know what does.
: >>
: > This is a fiction. Redhat do *not* develop drivers. 

: I did a grep on some directories in my 2.2.3 kernel source tree (the
: subdirectories under the drivers directory, to be precise).  There were
: several hits on "redhat," all in e-mail addresses of kernel developers.
: Now, perhaps Red Hat itself isn't officially supporting this development,
: but their people are certainly involved in it.

stupid comment, but I cant help but chastise poor english, which I am a
master of (poor english for those not following very closely).
that do, it should be does.
ok, I just realised i should change my editor
jeremy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Roland Paterson-Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:24:52 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Johan Kullstam wrote:

> > It made parsing easier in the days when a big Unix system had 8K RAM
> > and ASCII characters were 7-bit.
>
> do you seriously think that a conscious decision was made to save one
> extra compare?  make is a pretty complex program.  requiring tab
> versus allowing tab or space wouldn't have made any significant
> difference.  compiler options or the phase of the moon would have made
> more of an impact.

Incredibly enough, programmers (particularly C hackers) really do program
with this mentality. Hence, Knuth: Premature eja^H^H^H optimisation is the
root of all programming evil.

Roland


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From: "Richard F. Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI Tape drive, Linux ??? Info where ???
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 04:49:14 -0400

I have bin trying to track information down on SCSI Tape drives for
Linux for some time
and all I keep getting is FTape < BLAAA

So some one PLEASE tell me where to get GOOD info on SCSI Tape drive in
Linux ?
I run SuSE Linux 6.0 - kernel 2.2.5    ...

--
The dawn of a new age is here...
Linux, can YOU handle the FREE POWER of a real OS !
http://www.linux.org  |  http://www.suse.com
My home,  http://home.bellatlantic.net/~blademan



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From: "rock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't install RH5.2
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 08:56:44 GMT

I am a LINUX newbie trying to escape from Bill's clutches but know my way
around both PCs and Macs.
I have a LINUX RedHat 5.2 (Japanese and English) install problem.  I set the
BIOS to boot from the EIDE CDROM and all goes well until the installation
simply stops with a flashing cursor at the very blue (!) Welcome to LINUX
screen after the Initializing CDROM message.  I can't even get to a screen
that allows me to choose the disk on which to install LINUX or run Disc
Druid, etc.
I also tried a boot from the RH5.2 floppy but exactly the same thing
happens. I have spoken extensively with RH support here in Tokyo but they
have no idea what is causing the problem.  They are supposed to be asking RH
in the USA.
Here's the hardware configuration as it looks under 98.  The Japanese RH5.2
manual says that most of this hardware is supported, although there's a
question about the SCSI card and MO.
Is there some obvious bit of hardware blocking the install or should I start
pulling boards and experimenting?

Video Card:  NVidia RIVA128 AGP
Sound Card:  CreativeVibra16 Plug and Play 
HD1:  C: drive = Maxtor IDE 4 GB UltraDM IDE Primary Master (home of Windows
98J at present)
HD2:  D: drive = Quantum Fireball SCSI 1.2 GB (supposed to be home for
LINUX)
MO:  E: drive = Fujitsu SCSI M2512A 230 MB
CDROM SCSI:  F drive:  External DR-UO6S (F when switched on)
CDROM EIDE:  G: drive = Pioneer DR-A24X IDE Secondary Master (F when
external SCSI CDROM off)
SCSI Card:  Initio INIC-940
3Dfx Card:  Voodoo 3Dfx
Network Adapter:  Planet PCI ENW2401
Mouse:  Standard serial
Monitor:  Fujitsu
Printer:  Epson MJ930C$(D*)(J@networked print server
RAM:  128 MB
Free disk space:  1.2 GB
CPU:  AMD K6-11 (400 MHz)
Motherboard:  EPoX EP-58 MVP3C-M Apollo VP3 AG/PCI chipset


Thanks for any suggestions.

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From: Stefan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cs432x sound card problems
Date: 8 Apr 1999 07:32:07 GMT

i have a crystal sound card and am having trouble with it.  When i try to 
configure it i get an error message that says something about how the 
device is busy or being used. If anyone has any suggestions or have had 
any luck with this card it would be well appreciated.

Stefan


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Storath Julius)
Subject: PCCOM Intelligent 8 Port
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:58:25 +0200

Hi,
I wont to get a PCCOM Intelligent 8 Port Card manufacted by
Decision startet on SuSE 6.0.

The card is without documents (lost in .....)
It is from 1992 or 1993 and worked fine in a SCO Server until
several weeks ago.

The card has a 286 CPU
IRQ is set to 10
IO  sis set to 0x2c8
another jumper is set to 0xd8??



There is a patch on
     Decision PCCOM8 (8 ports)
     contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
     driver location: ftp://ftp.signum.se/pub/pccom8

but reading the docu of the patch I found that the patch
is to do against kernel 2.0.29
I am using now 2.2.0

Is it possible to do the patch against kern 2.2.0 ?

Is anyone out there who is running this card ?
Or is able to help the card getting started ?

N.B. I m running SuSE 6.0 Linux on 486 AMD System with
Adaptec 1542

Greetings from Germany
Julius

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From: "Dru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.basic.visual.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.javascript,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.advocacy,com
Subject: Re: free computer12
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:08:44 +0100

Now that's what I call spamming

Dru

Richard Taylor wrote in message <7egtrl$5u4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Um, Dell is more than 5 years old.
>webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:7eg4vf$bsp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Free Computer at http://giveaways.arecool.net
>>
>> DELL IS GIVING AWAY 500 FREE PENTIUM 500 Computers to celebrate their 5th
>> anniversary.
>>
>> Hurry and if you are one of the first 500 people you win a new
computer!!!
>>
>
>



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From: Lee Wei Shun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Serial Keyboard
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:36:46 +0800

Hmmm,

IIRC, some of the older motherboards had a fuse in-line with the +5V
supply to the K/B port. So a shorted port may just mean the replacment
of the fuse. If it is really shot, The other thing to do would be to
replace the keyboard controller, (if your M/B is old enough) from
another junk board. Newer M/Bs have resettable fuses and
soldered/integrated K/B controllers.

You may want to try that first before going so high-tech. Keyboard to
Serial converters exist, but are quite pricey. Building your own isn't
cheap either. Also, note that a used P133 M/B can be bought at
flea-marts for ~$20(?) if you look carefully enough. YMMV, but I don't
think the original idea justifies the time or engineering effort.

Regards, 

Lee Wei Shun
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<original message below>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "John L. Barthle Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > Hi everyone,
 >
 >     I have a question for some of the more experienced linux users. 
Is
 > there any way to make a keyboard for a computers serial port?  Here
is
 > the deal, i'm getting my hands on a P133 motherboard and processor
(hey
 > don't laugh it's fine for what i'm doing), but the motherboard's
 > keyboard port seems to be shot.  I've heard of people making
specialized
 > input devices for serial ports, but not keyboards.  Would making a
 > program that reads the serial port and redirects it to
/dev/(whatever)
 > and starting it in runlevel work?  If so, could someone point me in
the
 > direction of coding a daemon like that?
 >
 >                                                        Thanks in
 > advance,
 >
 > John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 I am trying to build an adaptor to convert either a ps/2 or an older
5-pin
 (XT?) keyboard to a serial port.  It is for our old DOS-based system,
which we
 gave to my grandmother.  The keyboard port shorted out and there is no
other
 way I know of to hook up a keyboard.  I don't know whether the ps/2
mouse port
 is shot or not.
 
 Thanks for the help,
 Jon ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
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 a popular platform on PCs.  It's almost too late now."  -- Steve Balmer
"It is too late."   -- Bill Gates             _Newsweek_, 6/23/97, p. 82

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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cs432x sound card problems
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:04:11 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

My Crystal card works fine.  You have to get the IRQ, etc, correct when
compiling the kernel, and the defaults are not always right.  Plus, it's
hard to compare a Windows setup for this card, because the Windows
drivers do it all for you.

Is it an external card, or on the motherboard ?  Dell puts this chip on
the mobo of many of its PCs.  In that case you can use something like
the Plug'n'Play utilities diskette to find its IRQ, etc.  Or you can try
and interpret the numbers in the Windows registry.

Stefan wrote:
> 
> i have a crystal sound card and am having trouble with it.  When i try to
> configure it i get an error message that says something about how the
> device is busy or being used. If anyone has any suggestions or have had
> any luck with this card it would be well appreciated.

-- 
===============================================================
Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)fr)

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From: Fedor Solodovnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.basic.visual.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.javascript,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.vms,comp.periphs.printers,comp.software.year-2000,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.sports,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Subject: Re: free computer
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:28:23 +0100

This is a good idea how to distribute viruses !!!!!!!!

webmaster wrote:
> 
> Free Computer at http://giveaways.arecool.net
> 
> DELL IS GIVING AWAY 500 FREE PENTIUM 500 Computers to celebrate their 5th
> anniversary.
> 
> Hurry and if you are one of the first 500 people you win a new computer!!!

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From: digger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: qmail can only send, but not receive
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 04:27:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just installed qmail for curiosity. when i test it, it can send email
from my local machine to my school account, but it can not receive
emails neither from local machine or my school account. sendmail could
do both before. any ideas? Thanks.


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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:36:51 -0600

Charles R. Lyttle wrote:

> The nice thing about Linux, it that everytime someone complains about a
> missing feature, I can respond, "Well, go write it!"

And the best thing is, after you respond with that, chances
are eventually you or someone else actually will write it...

-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Michael Glombitza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: ES1879 Soundchip in Compaq Notebook ?
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:46:42 +0200

Hi,

im trying to setup the soundcard in my Compaq Armada 7400 Notebook. It
should be a ES 1879 with IRQ 5, 0x220, 0x330, 0x388. I thought this was
a PnP card, but pnpdump doesn't generate any output. So i tried to set
it up as SB compatible (using the OSS-Kernel-Modules that come with
kernel 2.2.1 that support an earlier version of this chip, can't
remember exactely wich one at this moment). Loading the modules manually
using modprobe i get some chattering wav sounds.
Has anyone managed to set up this card ? I would appreciate any help. Im
running SuSE 6.0, kernel 2.2.1 (going to upgrade to 2.2.5 as soon as
i've got the time).

TIA,
Michael


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Subject: Re: Why is Linux "UNIX Like" & tty's
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Date: 26 Mar 1999 19:57:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 25 Mar 1999 20:09:06 -0600,
Keith Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I often hear Linux called a UNIX "like" OS.  Why is it not just a
>> UNIX OS like
>> SCO, HP-UX, AIX, SunOS, etc.?  Is it a copyright thing or is there a more
>
>Ya,  it is a copyright thing.  You must pay AT&T some hard cash for
>the privilege of calling your OS Unix.

Technically speaking, it is a *trademark* thing.  The distinction is
there and somewhat different from a copyright thing (copyright would
not protect the word ``UNIX,'' trademark can; copyright protects the
source code).

As for the other author's problem with ttys, visit the HOWTOs at:

http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/


-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jarl Friis)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: S3 Virge AGP
Date: 8 Apr 1999 11:48:15 +0200

Jorge JUAN CHICO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Is it supported by any XFree86 server?

I got mine up running, but I had to download the newest (3.3.3.1)
version of XFree, I used the SVGA server with a S3Virge driver, mine
was a Diamond stealth 3D Virge 4000 AGP. Yes it is supported, but not very accelerated.

Jarl, Denmark

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From: "John Seymour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.bbs.majorbbs,comp.bbs.majorbbs,comp.os.qnx,comp.unix.sco.misc
Subject: Do they work - High performance RS232 serial cards?
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:28:01 +0100

I've seen some vendors quote their cards as capable of 460kbps or even
921kbps for an RS232 card! Examples seem to be Comtrol's RocketPort, Chase
AT and PCI Fast cards, Stallion EasyIO cards, Digi ClassicBoards and
AcelePorts, and Equinox SuperSerials.

Whilst I don't doubt their ability to be set to some of these speeds, what
kind of cable length can they drive?

Before I buy any, anyone got any of these cards, and can tell me what chips
they use as line drivers??

Best regards

John



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