Linux-Hardware Digest #262, Volume #10 Tue, 18 May 99 11:13:36 EDT
Contents:
RipTide Chipset Sound Driver (Andrew Bland)
HP Laserjet 3p (Rich Cox)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Tempman1)
s3 trio 3d cards ("ersin gençtürk")
Re: How do I move linux? (Philip Charles)
Re: Sound Blaster AWE 32 (Gerhard Kowar)
Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines (C Lamb)
Re: Winmodem (Lew Pitcher)
Ati Rage Fury 128 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: TK50 Tape on Linux?? ("Dave Perrow")
Re: Kernal doesn't /dev/cdrom...block device? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux on Dell servers ("Lewis Foti")
Re: What happened to fdformat (Paul Payne)
Re: Sound card IDE ("C. E. Scheetz")
Re: SB live, or Monster 3d? (Brian Hunt)
Re: HELP REQUIRED WITH RAGE 128 CHIPSET + SBLIVE! (Brian Hunt)
Re: NIC and Modem Coordination (Johan Kullstam)
Re: How do I move linux? (Rod Roark)
Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?) (Mike Bartman)
SB PRo compatible with no valid driver (Karim Yaghmour)
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From: Andrew Bland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RipTide Chipset Sound Driver
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:58:08 +0100
Hi,
Anyone know if anyone will create a sound driver for this card?
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From: Rich Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP Laserjet 3p
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 04:27:09 -0700
I got a used HP Laserjet 3p, and have a few questions. I assume the 'p'
means its postscript capable, right?
Secondly, when I print to it under linux the text comes out in landscape
mode. How can I fix that? It prints in portrait under dos.
Thanks!
Rich
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From: Tempman1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 03:53:15 -0700
I believe that the Mach OS, and many other Micro kernel architectures are highly
modulor
OSes. Each service is independently developed and runs in its own process space. For
example, a vendor could design the *specs* for a "memory manager", "file manager",
"communications manager", "graphics engine", etc.. Any company could then create its
own
version based on these specs. This way instead of giant, monolithic OS like Unix or Win
2000 (30 million lines of code!), we would have an OS built of small, replaceable
components. Bugs will be fewer, and cost would be lower due to the competition (vendor
independence). Also, if the OS is rebuilt, bad components could be thrown away and the
good ones left as is (improved reusability.)
Tempman1
Adrian Wynne wrote:
> In a sense all(?) operating systems already do this, e.g.
> - each o/s has a published specification for other vendors to provide device drivers
> - there is some standard way of installing new application software from other
> vendors
>
> What you can't do with most mainstream operating systems is mess with the kernel
> (e.g. replace the process scheduler with your own algorithm). If you want to do this
> sort of thing, you're probably not in the mainstream operating system market and
> should be looking at specialist operating systems (e.g. real-time) or Linux or
> whatever.
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From: "ersin gençtürk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: s3 trio 3d cards
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:05:41 +0300
hi ! anyone knows any servers for s3 trio 3d cards ? It sucx running in vga
mode.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Charles)
Subject: Re: How do I move linux?
Date: 18 May 1999 12:04:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 18 May 1999 03:40:52 -0400, Dean Plude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Brad Pepers wrote:
>>
>> Zoran Cutura wrote:
>> >
>> > Rod Roark wrote:
>[big clip]
>why not just tar to make file from etc, boot ,usr ,opt , sbin , var
>etc.... all BUT /proc
>cp to new drive
>OR do like me install rh ,mount old drive and use mc to copy and
>overrite all
Done quite a bit of this over the last few months. I found it safer to use
mc for the copying. I could see _exactly_ what I was doing and could avoid
/proc and /b1 (where the new disk was mounted!). Hint, copy /boot
first so it ends up in the bootable range of the new disk.
You could also consider installing your system on multiple partitions while
you are at it.
Phil.
--
Philip Charles. For Debian GNU/Linux CDs, see http://www.copyleft.co.nz
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From: Gerhard Kowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster AWE 32
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:06:17 +0200
Alexander Bronnhuber schrieb:
>
> What do I have to do, to make my AWE 32 run under Linux 6.1?
> How can I check if it´s running
SuSe 6.1 != linux 6.1
modprobe sound
(in /etc/config.modules or modules.conf
alias char 14 sb
option sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 (or what it is)
..or modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5
modprobe awe_wave io=0x620 (maybe + memsize=4096)
cat /proc/sound
maybe build an new kernel with sound as modules
dont forget lowlwevel drivers [x]awe32
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines
Date: 18 May 1999 12:18:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: With the present generation of Celeron processors you can use a PGA
: processor in a Slot-1 adaptor which already contains the SMP
: modification. I have a pair of Celeron 300A processors running quite
: happily in my home machine. Just remember you need NT or Linux to take
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
or BeOS or FreeBSD or OpenBSD
or Plan9 or Solaris x86 or...
HTH
C
: advantage of the second processor.
: I guess Intel will stop connecting the SMP pin from the die if dual-
: Celeron machines become popular.
: Just my opinions,
: Keith.
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > [snip..]
: > Hi
: > A Celeron isn't capable of SMP. You'd have to go into a lot of extra
: > work in order to get it done. this involves more than just a
: > screwdriver.
: >
: > Bye
: >
: > Marc
: >
: --
: My employer bears no responsibility for my newsgroup postings.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Winmodem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:59:02 GMT
On Tue, 18 May 1999 09:34:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I've got Zoltrix 56k V.90 (internal) modem. It's a Winmodem.
>Does it works under Linux (RedHat 5.2) ?
No. It's manufacturer has not released a Linux driver for it.
>Thanks,
Your welcome.
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ati Rage Fury 128
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:26:39 GMT
Hej
I'm the owner of an Ati Rage Fury 128 graphiccard, but I have a
problem. I'm considering buying Open Linux 2,2 from Caldera Systems,
but have read that this is card cannot be used with Linux. Is that true?
Please also email me directly because I have some problems reading my
news pt.
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From: "Dave Perrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TK50 Tape on Linux??
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:00:25 +0100
I have the neccessary bits to try this so I'll maybe have a go over the next
few nights. I had a feeling the TK50 drive responds to disk commands??
Brian R. Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have an old Digital TK50Z tape drive which I need to get working with
> Linux. Am using Slackware + kernel 2.0.27 with SCSI tape compiled in.
> Linux recognizes the drive as /dev/nst0 on boot up but will not detect
> a loaded tape or respond to other mt commands. Question is:
>
> 1. Does anyone have this combination (TK50+Linux) working?
> 2. Where can I get a TK50 SCSI command/message definitions?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kernal doesn't /dev/cdrom...block device?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:43:32 GMT
"Timothy J. Bird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Esteemed Linux users,
>Whats up with this error message, kernal doesn't recognize /dev/cdrom as
>a block device?? All I did was flash my bios. It worked fine befor
>but now mount commands are ineffective.
>Any ideas?
>Birdman
Probably your kernel does not support SCSI which was being loaded as
a module but for some reason it is not anymore. Try loading the
appropriate SCSI module with insmod (e.g. insmod aic7xxx) and
then doing the mount.
KK
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From: "Lewis Foti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on Dell servers
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:31:26 +0100
Has anybody experience of running Linux on a Dell Power Edge 1300 server,
and if so would you do it again? I'd appreciate details of the hardware
configuration, especially what disk subsystems have been used.
thanks
Lewis
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From: Paul Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: What happened to fdformat
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:55:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I know this sounds stupid, but I used to think that you can low-level
> format a floppy in Linux using "fdformat". Well, on my Debian system
> this is what I get:
> ----------------------------------
> histria ~ # fdformat
> bash: fdformat: command not found
> histria ~ # man fdformat
> No manual entry for fdformat
> -----------------------------------
> (as root). How can I format a floppy ?
> Thank you,
> Cristian Barbarosie
>
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Type, without quotes, "mke2fs /dev/fd0", if you want an ext2 format
floppy. Don't know how to get a ms-dos format. If your floppy is not the
first floppy you will sub the zero with the right number, ie 1 for the
second floppy. Paul
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From: "C. E. Scheetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound card IDE
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:57:05 -0500
> The on-board IDE's (which allow you to connect up to 2 devices each)
Are you saying that the soundcard's IDE will only allow 1 device? I
don't believe that to be true. Master-Slave configuration should apply
to any IDE.
>
> exist on the PCI bus, I think, while the one on the sound card
> communicates through the slow 16 bit ISA bus.
>
Doesn't matter, you only get a 16 bit connection through the cable
anyhow (read man hdparm) so any speed gains are probably negligible, and
on my rig, 32 bit I/O support isnt on by default and must be turned on
by 'hdparm -c'.
>
> Unless you absolutely need this IDE (i.e., you have more than 4 IDE
> devices) I'd suggest forgetting about all it.
>
Rather than poo poo the hardware you do have, why not find a decent use
for it such as slapping an old 4x cdrom on it to listen to music cds
while you have a data cd in your fast cdrom?
C. E. Scheetz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Brian Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SB live, or Monster 3d?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:16:25 -0300
Same card. Different marketing.
The driver doesn't work equally on both cards in most cases.
:)
Brian
On 13 May 1999, Chad Dressler wrote:
> Do you happen to know if that beta driver works for the Live! Value card
> also?
>
> Thanks,
> Chad Dressler
>
> Ernst de Haan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Creative seems to be working on real support for their Live! (I have one
> > too), there's currently a beta driver that still has some problems, but
> > there's actually people working on it right now at Creative. Check out
> > developer.soundblaster.com.
> >
> > I don't know about the Aureal Monster3d.
> >
> >
> > GreetinX++, Ernst
>
>
>
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From: Brian Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP REQUIRED WITH RAGE 128 CHIPSET + SBLIVE!
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:11:56 -0300
The SBLive driver is still a beta driver and seems to have some quirks
on a number of systems. As for the Rage 128, I couldn't tell you, but
there are people at XFree86 working on it, so there should definantly be
support in the next release of XFree86.
It never hurts to wait a month or two for the prices to drop ... :)
HTH
Brian
On Tue, 11 May 1999, Christopher James Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just wan't to know from anyone if the Rage 128 chipset (on AGP bus) is
> supported by the Mach64 server before I go and put my hand in my pocket and
> buy one. Also, are there any hardware DVD projects under Linux yet?
>
> Creative just launched the SBLive driver but I can't get it to recognise
> the mixer. Any suggestions?
>
> Please e-mail me if you know :-)
>
> Thanx
>
> -------------------------------
> Chris Smith
> Dept Electrical Engineering
> Brunel University
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NIC and Modem Coordination
Date: 18 May 1999 09:34:09 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I've recently arrived home from college and have
> a question about how to disable my ethernet card
> (as it takes approx. 4 minutes to fail on boot)
> now that I am no longer connected to my campus
> network, such that I can later reactivate it.
you've got two options:
1) netcfg. turn off eth0 (assuming that's your card).
2) cd /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts
edit the ifcfg-eth0 file (i think it's this file - grep for BOOT if
it's not)
change BOOT=ON to OFF (this may not be 100% correct, but the line
you need to fix is pretty obvious)
option 1) netcfg is just a pretty front end that does 2) for you.
> Also, I need to now buy a modem to utilize my
> families ISP account. If anyone has can point
> me to a model that works particularly well with
> Linux it would be much appreciated.
i really like external modems. just about any of them will do.
again, use netcfg.
> System: RedHat 6.0
hth. feel free to email me if you need more help.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I move linux?
Date: 18 May 1999 13:50:36 GMT
Zoran Cutura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Rod Roark wrote:
>>
>> Millinium Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Is there a safe and easy way to move a working linux to another hard
>> >drive? I have an 850mb as a file and internet server and I want to
>> >move to a 2.1 Gb. Is there an easy way to migrate to the new drive?
>>
>> Yes. Make the new filesystem, mount it, and then copy everything to
>> it with cp -avx. Edit /etc/fstab to suit the new drive location.
>> You'll need a boot diskette for first-time booting.
>I think cp is a ungood way of copying! cp can have problems with special
>files (i.e. devices) softlinks might not be copied as links ...
It works fine (including symlinks) if you boot your rescue disk first.
Sorry, I forgot to say that. You generally don't want to back up a
live filesystem anyway.
-- Rod
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Sunset Systems Preconfigured Linux Computers
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ and Custom Software
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Bartman)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: All the current OSes are idiotic (was Re: Is Windows for idiots?)
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:26:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 18 May 1999 03:53:15 -0700, Tempman1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>2000 (30 million lines of code!), we would have an OS built of small, replaceable
>components. Bugs will be fewer, and cost would be lower due to the competition (vendor
>independence). Also, if the OS is rebuilt, bad components could be thrown away and the
>good ones left as is (improved reusability.)
Sorry, no sale. Reality contradicts your nice image.
In Windows we have a large OS, true, but we also have many of the
"modules" that make it up (device drivers, services, etc.) provided by
3rd parties. We *know* how stable this arrangement is...it's
"crash-o-matic"...and you have no good way of determining which party
is guilty and has to make a fix...you just get a freezup or a BSOD and
you reboot...over and over again.
On the other hand, OpenVMS is a large, monolithic OS produced by a
single company. It has very few crash problems...and what it *does*
have is nearly always device-driver related...usually device drivers
produced by third parties.
It seems to me that designing the entire OS to be written by whoever
wants to take a stab at it is a recipie for disaster...we've seen the
results in all existing OSs in the form of device drivers (or worse,
ala Windows), and it isn't pretty. The large monolithic parts of
OpenVMS are pretty much bullet-proof, which tends to show that a good
engineering team will produce your most reliable code, while a
committe effort, ala the device driver arena or Windows results in
frequent losses of service...or worse.
-- Mike "when reality contradicts you, it's best to listen..." Bartman
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From: Karim Yaghmour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SB PRo compatible with no valid driver
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:34:32 -0400
Hello,
I just got a notebook that has SB Pro compatible card
(Don't they all :) ). To make long stories short, it
doesn't work with any driver configuration I've seen
on the linux laptop pages or in
linux/Documentation/sound/
In windows it says that it's Sound Blaster Pro
compatible at 0x220 with irq 5. I also know that
there's a yamaha synthesizer chip (read OPL3 compatible).
Now, even if I load only the uart401 and sb with
the right paraemeters, I always get :
... 'dev/dsp': Device or resource busy
when I try to write. And when I try to read using:
more /dev/dsp
I get :
Sound: DMA (input) timed out - ....
I've tried all sort of things but nothing works.
I know that previous models of the notebook used
the YMF715. That means I should use OPL3-SA2,
but that doesn't work. It actually detects one,
but when it tries to check some stuff, it fails
in step B of ad1848_detect. I get :
ad1848 detect error - step B (ff/ff)
when loading it at 0x220 (if I try any other
address it fails at step A).
Anyways, does anyone have an idea on how to solve
this or even where to start in order to investigate
on whether this is a new "unknown" card?
Thanx in advance!
==============================================
Karim Yaghmour
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computer Engineer
Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
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