Linux-Hardware Digest #718, Volume #10 Fri, 9 Jul 99 20:13:38 EDT
Contents:
Re: Celeron, what's the catch? ("Dean Kent")
Re: Video Card Recommendation? (Michael Meissner)
Re: Which SCSI Adapter (Michael Meissner)
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
pcmcia and 3Com 574-TX card ("tripack")
Teac CDR56S experiences? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Looking for driver of HCF 56k PCI Modem? ("Tony")
TV tuner card recommendations ("Russ Ross")
Re: Making MPEG movies from AVI? ("R.K.Aa")
Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Hobbyistİ)
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From: "Dean Kent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Celeron, what's the catch?
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:55:04 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel
The Pentium MMX is significantly faster than the non-MMX processor (enough
to notice). This is due solely to a 32K L1 cache vs. a 16K L1 cache.
Regards,
Dean
chrisv wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 20:08:05 +0200, Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>The quickness of the AMD over the celeron stems from its L1 cache being
>>twice as big.
>
>While I agree with most your technical comments, this last one is not
>correct. The larger L1 of the K6-3 doesn't get you any huge leap in
>performance, just like the larger L2 doesn't.
>
>The K6-3 has a larger L1. It has a larger L2. It has L3. It has
>what some people think is a slightly faster integer core.
>
>It is the sum of these advantages which together combine to allow the
>K6-3 to be somewhat faster than the Celeron in most tasks.
>
>And of course these advantages certainly do not take you from
>"instant" to "a second or so" as one poster claimed.... Ridiculous.
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Video Card Recommendation?
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Jul 1999 19:06:02 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flash) writes:
> Hi, I m finally getting around to replacing my 2Mb video card, and I am
> looking for a recommendation.
>
> This is what I run on the machine
>
> Windowmaker 0.60.0 on XFree86
> RH Linux 5.2, kernel 2.2.x
> Viewsonic 19" Monitor
> Pentium 200
> 64Mb RAM
> PCI Bus only.
>
>
> I would like to get the most out of my new, beautiful Viewsonic G790, and
> increase my resolution to maybe 1280x1024, 24bit color.
>
> I would like to stick to around $150.
>
> If anyone can give me a good recommendation for a card that is very
> XFree86-friendly, PCI, and will support high refresh rates and
> resolutions, I would be most grateful.
I have a Intel L440GX+ motherboard that is more designed for a server and
doesn't have an AGP slot. I use a Nokia 446 Xpro 19" monitor at 1600x1200
resolution, 32 bits/pixel color depth and 82Hz refresh rate (I used to use
85Hz, but my Cybex SwitchView monitor switcher doesn't like that high of a
refresh rate. The video card I used is a Diamond Viper 550, which comes in
both AGP and PCI versions. It uses the TNT-1 chipset, and XFree86 3.3.3.1
supports it just fine. Note, you will have to upgrade your X server to 3.3.3.1
as the default shipped with RedHat 5.2 did not support the tnt chipset. You
want to use the SVGA server. Note, I would buy it fairly soon, since S3 just
bought Diamond, and I would have to imagine there will be some pressure to use
S3 chips instead of the TNT chips.
At one point, Matrox was making PCI versions of the G200, but when this
computer was built in the March time frame, the system builder couldn't find a
PCI G200 anywhere. The older Millenium-II was a nice PCI video card. Whether
you could find it is another question at this point.
The only other thought is the ATI cards, but I've heard that they don't do high
bandwidth situations well. Note, I've never used an ATI card, so I can't say
whether this is true or not.
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 978-486-9304 fax: 978-692-4482
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Subject: Re: Which SCSI Adapter
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Jul 1999 19:13:17 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller) writes:
> The Kouwell 801 adapter uses the Symbios 810 PCI-SCSI chip, and it works
> quite well with various versions of Linux that I've used over the years,
> including RH6, and with Win95. I have one in each of my 4 systems, running
> disks, tapes and CDROM drives.
Just a note, that you might not be able to boot off of an 810 based scsi
controller since many current motherboards don't have the necessary BIOS
support IIRC. Also 810 does not do ultra, but for just tapes, cds, and
scanners ultra is not an issue. Choose the NCR53C8XX driver instead of the
NCR53C7XX,8XX driver (the later driver seems to not be supported anymore).
You could also use a TekRam 390F (or 390U if you can find it). The downside of
the 390F is that it has a wide external connector (both wide and narrow
internal connectors), and most scanners and tapes use narrow connections (in
fact some scanners like my Umax 1220S use the apple 25 bin connector instead of
the more or less standard 50 pin narrow or 68 pin wide connectors).
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 978-486-9304 fax: 978-692-4482
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:16:40 -0700
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 13:41:05 -0500, Hobbyistİ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:53:45 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scrawled these
>sagacious words ...
>
>: On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 11:08:35 -0400, Brian Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>: >I can't and won't defend M$ product support. However, the sources of support are
>far more numerous for M$ than for Linux. Besides the
>: >Usenet newsgroups, there are countless articles in mainstream computer magazines
>catered to solving problems in both Windows and its apps.
>: >My experience of Linux is that you're limited essentially to Usenet and chat
>groups. (Again, there are notable exceptions to this rule, but
>: >not many). My argument continues to be that if you're not paying for the product,
>the programmer has no reason to support it, other than the
>: >kindness of his/her own heart.
>:
>: What is a magazine but an overpriced Web Page commited to paper
>: with far too many banner ads? Most of the popular computer press
>: is a joke, especially Ziff Davis.
>:
>: [detetia]
>
>
>It's really amazing how these linux shortcomings are rationalised in
>these ridiculous ways.
Someone made the claim that magazines which exist primarily
as a venue for advertising are a useful source of end user
support. That claim was not backed up in the slightest.
Furthermore, the concept of an online magazine should not be
new to you. Ziff Davis is even in on them. Furthermore,
various large chains and even some computer chains have nice
selections of Linux/Unix references.
The Linux Gazette has a help section as does the Linux Journal.
Windows Magazine is no trump card.
>
>Hey linux is hard to install and configure => Well you shouldn't be doing
>that by yourself. A trained professional should be doing it so your
>difficulties are irrelevant.
Many newbies dissagree. We've moved on from SLS.
>
>Hey, Linux lacks some spiffiness in it's appearance. It looks so dusky
>and dry.... => You microsoft weenies seem to love the glitzy appearance
What rock have you been hiding under? X lacks little in the
way of spiffiness, even with adobe fonts.
>that gives you that warm and fuzzy feeling .... blah, blah, blah. {I
>don't know about you, but I like when my car looks good and also
>functions well. The fact that it functions well, doesn't mean that it's
Funny, that's why I used GEM and why I use X. If Windows were
more reliable and more responsive and faster, I might have
tolerated it.
>looks are unimportant. A car dealer with that viewpoint will soon be out
>of business. The same goes for a proposed desktop OS.}
>
>Now the latest rationalisation is on linux helpers not being in
>magazines. => Magazines are no more than an overpriced .... garbage,
>garbage....
Well, they are for the most part. Just ask some of the
Byte affianados here. I doubt you will see much respect
for the other elements of the popular media here either.
>
>So magazines are a useless medium? We can dispense of them now, right?
Feel free to dispense with the ZD publications at your liesure.
>
>I could go on but ....
>
><final hand wave> Plunk.
Decided to go back to your rock I see...
--
It helps the car, in terms of end user complexity and engineering,
that a car is not expected to suddenly become wood chipper at some |||
arbitrary point as it's rolling down the road. / | \
Seeking sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: "tripack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pcmcia and 3Com 574-TX card
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:14:24 +0200
With my Compaq Presario 1805, the latest version of the driver (pcmcia
3.0.13) and older ones (2.0.9) my fast Etherlink 16-bit pc card doesn't work
anyway.
The kernel msgs are :
- (SuSe 6.1 kernel 2.2.6 )
Jul 10 00:27:08 R2D2 syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
Jul 10 00:27:08 R2D2 cardmgr[61]: initializing socket 1
Jul 10 00:27:08 R2D2 cardmgr[61]: socket 1: Adaptec APA-1480 SCSI Host
Adapter
Jul 10 00:27:08 R2D2 cardmgr[61]: executing: 'insmod
/lib/modules/2.2.5/pcmcia/cb_enabler.o'
Jul 10 00:27:08 R2D2 cardmgr[61]: executing: 'insmod
/lib/modules/2.2.5/pcmcia/apa1480_cb.o'
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: Loaded 8172 symbols from /boot/System.map.
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.2.5.
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: Loaded 76 symbols from 10 modules.
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: Serial driver version 4.27 with HUB-6
MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.0.9
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: kernel build: 2.2.5 unknown
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: options: [pci] [cardbus]
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: Intel PCIC probe:
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: TI 1131 PCI-to-CardBus at bus 0 slot 10, mem
0x68000000, 2 sockets
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: host opts [0]: [ring] [pci + serial irq]
[no pci irq] [lat 168/176] [bus 32/34]
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: host opts [1]: [ring] [pci + serial irq]
[no pci irq] [lat 168/176] [bus 35/37]
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,7,10 status change
on irq 10
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x1000-0x17ff: clean.
Jul 10 00:27:10 R2D2 cardmgr[61]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: Resource
temporarily unavailable
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding
0x200-0x207 0x220-0x22f 0x330-0x337 0x378-0x37f 0x388-0x38f 0x4d0-0x4d7
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: 3c574_cs.c v1.08 9/24/98 Donald Becker/David
Hinds, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: 3c574_cs: RequestIRQ: Resource in use
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: ROM image dump:
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: image 0: 0x000000-0x0001ff, signature PCIR
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: image 1: 0x000200-0x0003ff, signature PCIR
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: cs: cb_config(bus 35): vendor 0x9004, device
0x6075
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: fn 0 bar 1: io 0x1000-0x10ff
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: fn 0 bar 2: mem 0xa0030000-0xa0030fff
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: fn 0 rom: mem 0xa0020000-0xa002ffff
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: cs: could not allocate interrupt for CardBus
socket 1
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: cs: cb_release(bus 35)
Jul 10 00:27:09 R2D2 kernel: apa1480_cb: RequestIO: Out of resource
- Mandrake kernel 2.2.9
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 cardmgr[58]: get dev info on socket 0 failed: Resource
temporarily unavailable
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 cardmgr[58]: initializing socket 1
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 cardmgr[58]: unsupported card in socket 1
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 cardmgr[58]: no product info available
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.2.9-19mdk
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: Loaded 6432 symbols from
/boot/System.map-2.2.9-19mdk.
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.2.9.
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: Loaded 102 symbols from 9 modules.
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.0.13
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: kernel build: 2.2.9-19mdk #1 Wed May 19
19:53:00 GMT 1999
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: options: [pci] [cardbus] [apm]
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: Intel PCIC probe:
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: TI 1131 PCI-to-CardBus at bus 0 slot 10, mem
0x68000000, 2 sockets
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: host opts [0]: [ring] [pci + serial irq]
[no pci irq] [lat 168/176] [bus 32/34]
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: host opts [1]: [ring] [pci + serial irq]
[no pci irq] [lat 168/176] [bus 35/37]
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,7,10 status change
on irq 10
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x1000-0x17ff: clean.
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding
0x200-0x207 0x220-0x22f 0x330-0x337 0x378-0x37f 0x388-0x38f 0x4d0-0x4d7
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff:
excluding 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: cs: warning: no high memory space available!
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean.
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: 3c574_cs.c v1.08 9/24/98 Donald Becker/David
Hinds, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: 3c574_cs: RequestIRQ: Resource in use
Jul 10 00:33:04 R2D2 kernel: cs: could not allocate 64K memory for CardBus
socket 1
I have tried with many kernels (SuSe 6.1 kernel 2.2.6 , Mandrake kernel
2.2.9) and have got the same problems.
The drivers are well loaded as i can see with lsmod output :
Module Size Used by
3c574_cs 9332 0 (autoclean) (unused)
dummy0 684 1 (autoclean)
ds 6144 2 [3c574_cs]
i82365 23308 2
pcmcia_core 42112 0 [3c574_cs ds i82365]
nls_iso8859-1 2020 3 (autoclean)
nls_cp437 3548 3 (autoclean)
vfat 11356 3 (autoclean)
fat 25664 3 (autoclean) [vfat]
In files /etc/config.modules and pcmcia config files i have tried many
options.
None of them seems to work. I have also tried to add paramaters in this
files
but i have no good docs to know wich exact parameters to use.
Please could you help a poor Linux beginner !
(Sorry for my bad english !)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Teac CDR56S experiences?
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 22:47:46 GMT
Hi,
I plan to buy a Teac CDR56S internal SCSI CD-R drive for my computer. I
already have a SCSI-2 (AdvanSys) card installed and working fine, and
I'm running Red Hat 5.1 Linux. If anyone had good or bad experiences
with this drive, I'd appreciate hearing about it.
In particular, there are three important thing: installation problems,
media compatibility (I have a stack of silver-blue TDK's) and problems
while using it, like errors, overheating, tray not ejecting after
burning a CD or xcdroast not recognizing the drive(er), CD-ROM, etc.
Thanks a lot,
Milica
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
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From: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for driver of HCF 56k PCI Modem?
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:33:06 -0700
hi, there
I am looking for it for a long time. Please help me if someone know it.
thanks.
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From: "Russ Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TV tuner card recommendations
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:05:41 -0400
Could anyone point me to a FAQ or other information about TV tuner cards
under Linux? I'm currently running Mandrake 6.0 on an AMD K6-2/300 system
w/64meg RAM and a STB Velocity 128 (nVidia Riva 128) video card. My sound
card is a generic Yamaha chipset based ISA PNP card (configured properly to
work under Linux). I'd like something cheap, but usable.
What are the features & chipsets to look for and which to avoid? In
particular, there seem to be some cheap ones here:
http://www.adc-ast.com/SELFR.HTML
Anyone know which of those (under the multimedia section) will work under
Linux?
I'm a student, and I don't watch TV enough to buy one, but it would be nice
to be able to watch something occasionally. I know next to nothing about
these cards, so any pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks!
- Russ
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Making MPEG movies from AVI?
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 01:50:38 +0200
Apropos the sound problem: Have you tried bttvgrab ?
http://moes.pmnet.uni-oldenburg.de/bttvgrab/
K.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hobbyistİ)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 18:47:51 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:22:21 GMT, Shice Beoney scrawled these sagacious
words ...
: >It's really amazing how these linux shortcomings are rationalised in
: >these ridiculous ways.
: >
: >Hey linux is hard to install and configure => Well you shouldn't be doing
: >that by yourself. A trained professional should be doing it so your
: >difficulties are irrelevant.
:
: It took me an hour and a half to install RedHat. Then about a week of
: playing with it in my spare time to get it working the way I wanted.
: Now that I've gone through it once, I could probably do the
: install/configuration inside of 2 hours. I didn't have any problems
: that I couldn't solve with RTFM, a few dejanews searches, and the
: comp.os.linux.* NGs. I don't have a single bit of formal training. So
: either I'm some kind of genius computer prodigy, or Linux isn't nearly
: as hard to install as some make it out to be, and while I'd like to
: believe the former, I'm pretty sure it's the latter.
On my very first encounter with OS/2 (that was warp3 then 4), the second
operating system that I ever installed, I had it installed and configured
for day to day functioning within half a day. NT I had up and running in
less than 3 hrs. I'm not a computer genius either. BeOS, I had browsing
the net in about two hours. Linux, I've installed on five occasions and
gave up at variable times along the way. I must admit that I never sat
down for a week, but when three days had passed and I was still browsing
for information to get connected to the internet and to get Netscape to
run, I ditched it. Afterall, I wished to try linux for personal desktop
computing and there were much more non-techie friendly choices available.
I'm sorry that linux takes a whole week.
If it's important that you run linux because of unique features that it
has to offer then fine go ahead.
: >Hey, Linux lacks some spiffiness in it's appearance. It looks so dusky
: >and dry.... => You microsoft weenies seem to love the glitzy appearance
: >that gives you that warm and fuzzy feeling .... blah, blah, blah. {I
: >don't know about you, but I like when my car looks good and also
: >functions well. The fact that it functions well, doesn't mean that it's
: >looks are unimportant. A car dealer with that viewpoint will soon be out
: >of business. The same goes for a proposed desktop OS.}
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: Gee, by that logic, Sun should be out of business and Apache should be
: one of the least-used web servers on the market. Is Outlook Express a
: better newsreader than Forte Agent because it's "prettier"? Hell, by
: that argument, the MacOS is better than windows. Not to mention NeXt
: and probably Amiga as well.
If I mention the unfavourable appearance of something, why are you
assuming that this is all that matters to me? That's a wrong assumption
to make. Please!
Sun and Apache web servers are *not* desktop systems. These are systems
that rely on pure functionality and reliability. Looks are of no
significance there. Very bad comparison. For a desktop OS, it goes
without saying that functionality comes first, but the appearance is
definitely of importance as well. A desktop computer is a personal thing,
and the desktop is often called the workspace and people do all sorts of
things to change that environment to make it look attractive and to their
liking. Pretty much like your home or your office. This issue is of
course of secondary importance but it should not, by any means, be
belittled. Of course, there'll be "squares" who don't give a hoot about
looks and they're certainly not the ones to be talking to and getting
advice about making a desktop OS attractive.
--
A Hobbyist.
I use what works best for me and not what works best
for others.
>>>Down with the irrational OS zealot!!!<<<
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