Linux-Hardware Digest #745, Volume #10           Mon, 12 Jul 99 17:13:42 EDT

Contents:
  ADULTS ONLY! 33726 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
  Re: [Help!] X window setup for Trident 3DImage 9850 AGP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: ATI Xpert98 ("justin P")
  No Mouse After RH 6.0 Install ("J.R.")
  Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Sven Utcke)
  Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work ("Jim Williams")
  Re: Celeron, what's the catch? (Greg Yantz)
  Re: Lumber (was: Re: Bogus hard disk sizes from manufacturers) ("Jim Williams")
  Re: Need Switch/Relay Output For Alarms (John Cochran)
  Re: Linux/KDE; KDat backup on dat tape proggy (Barry Samuels)
  Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Stuart Hall)
  Linux and MPC860 (Sorin Balea)
  Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT! (Sven Utcke)
  Re: Redhat 6.0... the good, the bad, and the ugly (Zippy the Pinhead)
  Re: Problems with Quantum (Konstantopoulos S.)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: ADULTS ONLY! 33726
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, 12 Jul 1999 11:48:30 -0600

This is for Adults Only:

http://207.240.225.250

* 18+ Only  Please!









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7,LFmRdng"

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:53:35 -0700

On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:06:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>     I think the main problem is that some Linux proponents are such
>because they
>> hate Microsoft, and therefore can't conceive that Windows does
>anything, no
>> matter how small, better than Linux.  This kind of zealousness

        Except this isn't just a Linux vs. Windows world.

        There are classes of users that should be able to       
        sue you for damages for suggesting that Windows
        will actually be suitably easy for them.

        Want easy? Buy easy. BE the invisible hand and not
        just another member of a crowd who would turn our
        free market into a command economy.

-- 

It helps the car, in terms of end user complexity and engineering,         
that a car is not expected to suddenly become wood chipper at some    |||
arbitrary point as it's rolling down the road.                       / | \
                                                                       
                        Seeking sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: [Help!] X window setup for Trident 3DImage 9850 AGP
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:12:42 GMT

I think I finally have it working.  I thought my problem was with video,
but now I see it was just my mouse driver.  I think I am running at 800
x 600, but I know of no way of verifying.  I could not achieve any
resolution higher.  Are the desktops always larger than the screen.  If
so, who in the world thought that was a good idea.  I do not like having
to scroll over to see all of my desktop.  I do not know if it is because
of the distribution I am using, but it worked pretty easily after I
figure out that my problem was mouse related.  I am using Mandrake Linux
6.0.  If I can be of any help email me or post a reply.  I by the way am
glad I did not deep six Windows.  I can not get on the internet because
I can find no way to configure modems, I have no sound because I can
find no way to configure sound cards, in short I can find no utility to
configure periphrials at all.



In article <01becbca$de243620$ed23b4d8@skipper3>,
  "jskipper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the same card with no luck.  If you managed to get it to work
please
> let us all know how you did it.
>
> tnx
>
> Jim
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article <7m53ub$cnb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > I know you are looking for help your self, but maybe you can help
me.  I
> > have the same video card (would you believe there are two of us) and
I
> > can not set up X Windows.  If you were able to get it at all I would
> > love to know how.
> >
> > In article <7m3svd$sno$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >   "Jongmin Shin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi, everyone!
> > >
> > > My graphic card is Trident 3DImage 9850 (AGP).  It was not easy to
set
> > up X
> > > window for that.
> > >
> > > Only 640x480 mode is available...  :-(
> > >
> > > Where can I get the right driver for my graphic card, or is there
> > anybody
> > > who can advice me?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Good luck with you.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
> >
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: "justin P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: ATI Xpert98
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:53:46 -0700

Try XF86Setup
maybe that will help
Larry Blumer, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
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> > the hork ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > Alessandro Giachino wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am having major problems with my X-server.
> > > >
> > > > It frequently crashes.
> > > >
> > > > I am using ATI Xpert98 with latest XFree86 (3.3.3.1)
> > >
> > > i used a ati xp98 too (agp version).
> > > had no problems.
> > > try kernel 2.0.36 or look for a special driver for that card.
> >
> >         This, is actually not a kernel related problem. If you are using
> > XFree86 3.3.3.1, you should also be sure that you are using the correct
X
> > server. I'm using the same card, AGP, with the Mach 64 server, and have
> > no problems. Be sure that you are using that, or maybe, the SVGA or
VGA16
> > server (just as backup), to be sure your card is working. other than
> > that, you should be fine.
> >
> >                                                         BL.
> > - --
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> I'm using an Xpert card with the 3D Rage Pro chipset (Red hat 6.0)
> Xconfigurator sets up the card just fine, but only at 640x480 (8 bit).  If
I
> hack the XF86Config, x will not start
>
> Larry Blumer
>



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From: "J.R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No Mouse After RH 6.0 Install
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:04:18 -0500


Just got into the Linux scene and know virtually nothing about it.
Was able to install it with little problem and when asked about the
mouse I picked the genetic serial type - as I have a logitec no fancy
stuff basic two button serial mouse.

Now there is no mouse and it is frustrating - how can I get the system
to
see the mouse so I can move on to bigger and better problems?  I can't
do anything at all and will certainly never learn anything without the
mouse . . . .

Thanks for any and all help . . .

J.R.



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From: Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: 12 Jul 1999 20:30:16 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (HobbyistŠ) writes:

> On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:22:21 GMT, Shice Beoney scrawled these sagacious 
> words ...
> 
> : >It's really amazing how these linux shortcomings are rationalised in 
> : >these ridiculous ways.
> : >
> : >Hey linux is hard to install and configure => Well you shouldn't be doing 
> : >that by yourself. A trained professional should be doing it so your 
> : >difficulties are irrelevant.
> : 
> : It took me an hour and a half to install RedHat. Then about a week of
> : playing with it in my spare time to get it working the way I wanted.
> : Now that I've gone through it once, I could probably do the
> : install/configuration inside of 2 hours. 
> 
> On my very first encounter with OS/2 (that was warp3 then 4), the second 
> operating system that I ever installed, I had it installed and configured 
> for day to day functioning within half a day. NT I had up and running in 
> less than 3 hrs. I'm not a computer genius either. BeOS, I had browsing 
> the net in about two hours. Linux, I've installed on five occasions and 
> gave up at variable times along the way. I must admit that I never sat 
> down for a week, but when three days had passed and I was still browsing 
> for information to get connected to the internet and to get Netscape to 
> run, I ditched it. 

Yes, I know how you feel.  However, this seems mostly a question of
hardware.  I have this year installed both Win95 (yes, I know) and
SuSE 6.0 on two computers each, namely:

a) Thinkpad 701c
b) generic AMD K6-2

On the Thinkpad 701c, installing Linux was a freaking nightmare.  You
couldn't access the CD (PCMCIA) before installing Linux, but needed
the CD in order to install Linux.  I got interrupt-conflicts.  I only
had a small disk, so I was constantly missing bit's and pieces.
Windows, by comparison, was easy and straighforward, although I had to
do it 3 times before it was running properly.

On the AMD K6-2 with lots of muscle, installing Linux was a breeze and
took me _well_ under 3 hours.  Installing Windows took me two weeks,
most of which I spent hunting for patches.  Win95 does not run on
AMD-processors faster than 300MHz, to name just one problem, and
things went downhill from there... Windows still doesn't run 100%
correct (even for Windows), but at least doesn't crash unexpectedly
more than usual...

What this probably boils down to is that on a "standard" computer I
would install Linux every day, while on anything out of the ordinary
Win will install with less hassle.

Sven
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From: "Jim Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Cant get Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI to work
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:00:59 -0500

What is ALSA?

Rory wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>I got it working!
>under ALSA,under 2.0.37 kernel
>
>I bought the card cheap from Buy.com 25 bux total
>It has a 1373 chipset on the physical board , but ID's in linux as a 1371
>
>
>Thanks to all that posted.
>



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From: Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: Celeron, what's the catch?
Date: 12 Jul 1999 16:33:48 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael) writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (chrisv) wrote:

> >On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:27:39 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael) wrote:

> >>And of course you said a few days ago that the celeron was as quick as
> >>the k6 III in this area.... change of tune?  Shall I quote?

> >Wrong again.  Here's what I said:

> ><quote>
> >Get real.  There's something wrong with your machine.  Celerons are
> >very snappy in Windows, much more so than AMD machines I have seen.

Celeron's are indeed pretty snappy in Windows. 

> Dude you better go get an English class for reading comprehension.
> Add logic after you get basic English.  If you don't think the clear
> implication of your statement is that Celerons are faster than AMD
> k6's comes from that quote, there is no sense in talking and so I
> won't.  The fact that you would quote again and still not understand
> what YOU said is scary.

The AMD machines he's seen may or may not have been K6-III's. They 
may have been K6-2's, and from my personal experience I would have
to agree. I own a K6-2 and a Celeron, and the Celeron subjectively
"feels" a little bit quicker. YMMV.

Most benchmarks I've seen show the K6-III as being faster than a
Celeron for integer work, but not by a huge margin.

> >Please show where I state that Celery is faster than K6-III.  I stand
> >by the above statement.  

> Scary.  Real scary to me.

You're being an overly pedantic twit and ignoring the real issue.
Annoying. Real annoying to me.

> >My real "point" here is that the slight differences in "CPU speed"
> >cannot explain your statements that your AMD machine responded
> >"instantaneously" while the Intel machine took "a second or so".  If
> >there's really that dramatic a difference, it AIN'T (as you claimed)
> >because the AMD chip has twice the L2 chache, or that is so much
> >faster overall.  These chips are not that different in performance,
> >and other variables in the system can easily out-weigh the differences
> >in raw CPU power.

^^^^^^^^^^^
This paragraph is the real point. If your observed performance difference
is *that* different between the 2 machines, there must be some other
factor at work.

> Fine you win...you're correct, my observations are wrong Happy Now?

Noone ever suggested your observations were wrong, simply that there's
another variable you haven't accounted for. 

> >I have a friend with a K6-2 machine that is dramatically less
> >responsive than my Celery machine, and I don't for a minute think that
> >it's because his CPU is so slow.  There's obviously something else
> >going on, to the detriment of his machine.

Reasonable statement. If two machines with CPU's that are in the same
ballpark, performance-wise behave noticably differently, there must
be some other factor affecting performance.

> Who even was talking about k6-2's ...all my references were to k6
> 3...never to a k6 2.  Ok this is the end of my responses to your
> childish reponses to me.  

OK, since you were unable to understand his statement, I explained it
for you. Hope it helps.

> You are impolite, rude, and lack reading comprehension so there's no 
> point in discussing this.

A glorious self-portrait. Why did you even start this in the first place? 

-Greg

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From: "Jim Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: Lumber (was: Re: Bogus hard disk sizes from manufacturers)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:10:09 -0500

heh. What you've said is the fact of the matter. Unrelated, but sometime
measure a brick on your house (or nearby building if you don't have a brick
house.) An 8" brick is really 7 5/8s long, a 10" brick is really 9 5/8s
long... but you can find *massive* variance in this, even in brick of the
same classification (regular, king size, jumbo, roman, norman, etc) One of
the nightmares for a mason is when they've mixed two different runs of brick
to get a blend of colors, and the two colors are of even slightly different
sized brick. If the wall is just the wrong length, and your bricklayers get
in a hurry (which is like saying if the sky should turn blue...) you'll have
big, irregular patches in the wall with brick all of the same color instead
of the blend. Or you'll have a "pattern" where (usually at one end) they
have the same color brick in the same position all the way up the wall,
because that color was smaller and so they could "get in" without making a
cut.
Totally off-topic and irrelevant, but I felt like rambling. I must be
getting old <sigh>

David Graham wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>For lumber, at least, drying has nothing to do with it.
>
>A 2x4 has a predictable cross-section of 1 1/2 x 3 1/2 inches (unless
>they are even smaller now).  A century or so ago, it would have been 2 x
>4 actual inches.  The "standard" has shrunk several times by small
>fractions.  One very good way to tell the age of a building is to
>measure the dimensions of a piece of framing lumber to see which
>standard size was in in effect when it was cut.
>
>David Graham
>--
>The drying does explain the warping, however.
>
>> > Go to a lumber yard, buy a 2x4 and measure it.
>> >
>> > Things could be a lot worse!  ;-)
>>
>> At least a lumber yard has a good reason for this!
>> Lumber is cut before it is fully dry and afterwards it
>> shrinks to a somewhat unpredictable size.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Cochran)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Need Switch/Relay Output For Alarms
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:51:56 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kari Laine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 29 May 1999 15:56:25 -0700, "Art Botterell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>Has anyone here made a switch- or relay- output board work under Linux?  If
>>so, which board and where did you find the driver?

Yes.

I used the Antona ANC-1008 relay card. From a software point of view,
this card provides a single 8-bit port that you can read or write
and each bit controls a single pole double throw relay. I didn't
bother creating an actual driver that resides under /dev, but
instead made a *very* simple suid root program that directly
toggled the bits. For details on the card, look at

        http://www.antona.com/ 

They provide pdf manuals on their cards, so you can examine them and
determine if this card will do what you need it to do.

The rating on their card is 115VAC at 1 Amp.


>
>I need also that kind of board. It would be nice if it could drive
>220V directly. If not I can connect there some extra relays.
>I am going to use it to boot automatically those NT boxes which spend
>half of they life in BSOD. 
>
>If that very unlikely event would happen that Linux would crash. Is
>there a watchdog card which would monitor that linux box and boot it
>in an event of crach.
>
>
>Best Regards
>Kari Laine
>
>LinuxWare Oy http://personal.inet.fi/business/linuxware
>Tel. +358-(0)19-334618  Fax +358-(0)19-334627 
>GSM  +358-(0)400-480273 Home +358-(0)19-334616
>Hiidenmäenkuja 15, 03100 NUMMELA, FINLAND
>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry Samuels)
Crossposted-To: comp.arch.storage,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux/KDE; KDat backup on dat tape proggy
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:05:18 GMT

On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 03:01:43, "Gene Heskett" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What 'kdatrc' file?  According to locate, no such file exists on my
> system.  What generates/installs/configures that?  BTW, setting the
> prefs in the copy of kdat I have doesn't get saved, no save prefs item
> exists in the menu's, and no docs apparently exist for KDat.

The changes made under 'Edit, Preferences' are normally saved 
automatically into the kdatrc file unless you cancel of course.

> So it would appear.  Does you know whats supposed to be in this 'kdatrc'
> file, and in what directory it lives?  I have no docs whatsoever on this
> other than the help pulldown, which is not.

In your home directory ( /root if you are logged on as root or 
/home/whatever if you are logged on as whatever ) there should be a 
kde directory and as it starts with a dot it will normally be hidden.
 Under that directory there should also be a share/config/ directory 
path.  For example, /root/.kde/share/config should contain a file - 
kdatrc into which configuration changes are saved.

Example:

#KDE Config File
[KDE Setup]
tapeBlockSize=1024
tapeDevice=/dev/nst0

> Silly Q?  If I can get qt-2.00 to compile, can I just replace 1.42 with
> it, or do I have to recompile the other 99% the kde stuffs on the
> planet?

You may well have to recompile some of the packages on your system.
 
> In that event, I guess my system is frozen until such time as kde 1.2 is
> released and installed, which supposedly *might* fix some of this.

One of the things that I like about Debian is apt-get.  It enables you
to log on to the the Debian site, tells you which of your installed 
packages have been updated, works out all the dependencies for you, 
downloads and installs it all.  Can't be simpler can it?

Best wishes

Barry Samuels


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Hall)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:00:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:08:39 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (HobbyistŠ) so
kindly spent valuable time writing:

<snip various tales of Woe>

>
>BeOS is the one to try. It's an *absolute* pleasure and does things very 
>nicely and in a usable fashion. It's also a breeze to install. BeOS is 
>certainly not windows so what's the deal linux fans? :)

A coupla comments from a newbie Linux user:

It appears that Be is still run by a corporation - which makes it as
much like M$ as anything - because they have their own agenda.  Also,
I tried looking for software, and although much of it is available for
download, not nearly as much quality software as with Linux.  For
instance, I did not see any free for d/load office-type productivity
software.

I think it may be the *free* vs. the non-free thing for me.  First I'd
have to pay for a copy of the OS, just to try it out.  There is no
'cheapbytes' option.  Then I'd have to pay for all new software to
actually get the OS to do anything.  I might as well stick with
Windblows, right?  Perhaps when BeOS takes off then it will be worth
the switch, but until then I'd rather run a dual-boot system w/
windows98 and Linux.

Stuart
Cheshire, CT USA

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Cheshire, Connecticut, USA
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From: Sorin Balea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and MPC860
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:19:48 GMT

Hello
Does anyone know about MPC860 support under Linux?
We're trying to develop some internet applications on MPC860 and we're
going to need an OS and TCP/IP and PPP stacks on this platform...

Thanks in advance

Sorin



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From: Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Windows easy to install? BULLSHIT!
Date: 12 Jul 1999 22:14:30 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:

> On 12 Jul 1999 20:30:16 +0200, Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (HobbyistŠ) writes:
> >
> >> On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:22:21 GMT, Shice Beoney scrawled these sagacious 
> >> words ...
> [deletia]
> >> for information to get connected to the internet and to get Netscape to 
> >> run, I ditched it. 
> >
> >Yes, I know how you feel.  However, this seems mostly a question of
> >hardware.  I have this year installed both Win95 (yes, I know) and
> >SuSE 6.0 on two computers each, namely:
> >
> >a) Thinkpad 701c
> >b) generic AMD K6-2
> >
> >On the Thinkpad 701c, installing Linux was a freaking nightmare.  You
> >couldn't access the CD (PCMCIA) before installing Linux, but needed
> >the CD in order to install Linux.  I got interrupt-conflicts.  I only
>       
>       You can install linux from the network. Did you try that?

That's what I ended up doing, which is slow and tedious and doesn't
work if you are trying an NFS-install instead off an FTP-install if
Linux hasn't been installed previously.  And just what would I have
done had I tried that on my girlfriend's desktop instead of my laptop,
or if I hadn't found someone with an PCMCIA ethernet card, or if I
hadn't have access to a network in the first place?  Installing Linux
on anything non-standard is a freaking pain, although it is my
operating-system of choice once you got it installed...

Sven
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| |  | |/ /_ _|                                           University of Hamburg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zippy the Pinhead)
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.0... the good, the bad, and the ugly
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:00:51 GMT


RH 6.0 does add a host name entry after finding your NIC.


On Thu, 13 May 1999 21:08:06 GMT, Richard Birchall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "dpc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Upgraded to RH 6.0 from 5.9.7 - Everything seemed to go well.  I
>> logged in, started X and was in Gnome.  After a few minutes of using
>> it (had some terminals open, netscape had been open/closed, etc) I
>> tried to start another terminal, and it wouldn't work...Tried to
>> start netscape, no go.  Tried to start anything else....nothing.  OK,
>> so let's logout - can't do that either. Finally have to do a
>> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to get out.
>
>Did you make a PPP connection, and then things stopped working?  This
>is caused if you don't give your PC a host name.
>
>Use linuxconfig (or edit /etc/hosts and /etc/sysconfig/network) to
>change your host name to mypc.mydomain (or anything other than
>localhost.localdomain) and this problem goes away.
>
>
>Suggestion: Red Hat should add a host name entry step during the
>install, even if only dial-up PPP is being used.
>
>
>Richard
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Konstantopoulos S.)
Subject: Re: Problems with Quantum
Date: 12 Jul 1999 20:27:21 GMT

Leejay Wu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> (and reboot if fdisk tells you to.  Well, the man page actually suggests
>  always...)

Well, the first time around I was thinking along the lines of "I'm not
booting my box again, I should _have_ have to reboot a Linux box short
of a kernel upgrade or the HD installation itself", but I must have
booted three or four times today.

> and then 

> /sbin/fdisk /dev/hdc
>   p)rint partitions, and it's not listed?

Precicely! The last time without _any_ other piece of software
inbetween. The exact same immediatelly after rebooting, as well.


> Does fdisk complain at all when you create partition, or when you write?

Nope.

> If not, then this *might* be a hardware issue, but...

I wish fdisk or the BIOS would complain about something, then I could
throw the thing away with a clear concience, but not just like that!
Besides 400 megs is all the storage capacity I'll be needing for a
couple more years and it's difficult to come across disks like that
these days, I don't want to be buying any multi-gig monsters right
now.

stasinos

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