Linux-Hardware Digest #292, Volume #13 Tue, 25 Jul 00 04:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: ATI Rage Pro -- dog slow, please help! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Change boot parameters LILO ("Ken Crofts")
Sound Configuration for KDE. (Jim Broughton)
Re: UPS with serial port (Alex)
aureal driver in 2.4.0-test4?
Re: 1GMHz+ PC with Linux to run EDA SW? (neko)
Re: Promblems with SCSI in RH 6.2 ("JRR")
Re: Trantor t-160 scsi and Linux. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: HP CD-RW hangs my machine... GOT IT OK!!!! (Simon Tetu)
Re: UPS with serial port ("Tony Newman")
Re: als4000 soundcard (Fred)
insmod errors.WTF? (long post) ("adan")
Re: A good IDE (cLIeNUX user)
Re: Change boot parameters LILO (Zebee Johnstone)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ATI Rage Pro -- dog slow, please help!
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 03:25:19 GMT
hmm, yes, i'm quite positive that i'm using the mach 64 server. but
thanks for this data point, i was all but sure that it;s just a slow
server...
greg
> Are you sure you're using the Mach64 server? I use an Xpert 98
(1152x864,
> 32 bpp) with a K6-III-450, 256 megs of RAM, and SuSE 6.3, and it's
just as
> fast (as far as I can tell) as it was under Win98. I don't recall
offhand
> if there's an unaccelerated server that'll do 1280x1024, but the
Mach64
> server is definitely accelerated.
>
> _/_
> / v \
> (IIGS( Scott Alfter (remove Voyager's hull number for email address)
> \_^_/ http://salfter.dyndns.org
>
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From: "Ken Crofts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Change boot parameters LILO
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:08:50 +1000
"Stanislaw Flatto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ken Crofts wrote:
>
> > "Stanislaw Flatto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Ken Crofts wrote:
>
> > Linux is a Good OS?????
Judgement still reserved!!!!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ken
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From: Jim Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Configuration for KDE.
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:43:54 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have an aureal vortex 2 that I am using with
the factory drivers (not open source) and not
supported well in the system. They work great
though when doing things that address the
correct devices in the dev directory.
Unfortunatly since this is not a SUPPORTED
card redhat 6.1's sndconfig will not even
touch it. The file needed to get KDE's sound
working is the one generated by you guessed it
sndconfig. Since I do not know the format
of the sndconfig file, that is normaly placed
in the /etc/sysconfig directory, I was wondering
if someone with a creative pci 128 (had one know
its specs) would be so kind as to mail me the
contents of your /etc/sysconfig/sndconfig file.
(at least I think its called sndconfig I could
be wrong.) It is however in the /etc/sysconfig
directory. I am hoping to be able to cross match
contents to the vortex card to get things with KDE
operational. Many thanks in advance.
--
Jim Broughton
(The Amiga OS! Now there was an OS)
If Sense were common everyone would have it!
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: UPS with serial port
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:45:08 -0400
Stewart Honsberger wrote:
> >Is there a UPS Linux compatibility list somewhere?
>
> PowerChute software from APC works under Linux. From my observations, it
> can function on an equal par with the Win'** version; including all
> shutdowns, scheduled tasks, and self-tests.
>
I have just check out the apc's web site. They do have PowerChute software (for
Linux) for download. I just got myself a BACK UPS 500 MC few days ago... I will
try the software after I got the cable... Hopt it is not too hard to configure
(with RPM for RedHat6.1).
Alex.
>
> --
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
> Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test4
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: aureal driver in 2.4.0-test4?
Date: 25 Jul 2000 04:34:02 GMT
I have compiled 2.4.0-test4 with sound support (no specific card,
however). I have a Turtle Beach Montego II card, and have downloaded the
drivers from linux.aureal.com (ver. 1.0.5) and attempted to compile as per
the instructions (# make install20), but I get the following error
message:
vortex.c: In function `sound_proc_get_info':
vortex.c:2267: structure has no member named `base_address'
make[1]: *** [vortex.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/au88xx-1.0.5'
make: *** [install10] Error 2
Any suggestions on how to fix this would be much appreciated.
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Drew Boyles
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From: neko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.verilog
Subject: Re: 1GMHz+ PC with Linux to run EDA SW?
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:05:29 GMT
In article <wTLe5.69$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Hien Pham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Neko,
>
> What would be the cheapest home set up for design tools/hardware that
one
> can have ?
>
> I can get linux to run with two intel 1GHZ CPU's, what tools can I use
? Is
> there any any sysnthesis tool to use with Linux these days ?
I doubt it.
I'm using a Synplify (FPGA synthesis tool) under Solaris/Sparc.
I also uses Signalscan under Solaris/Sparc as a waveform viewer.
Those are currently not available under Linux environment.
This is one of the reason I hesitate to have Linux only environment.
My previous posting is intended to provide an example of consolidatition
of Solaris and Linux (however Solaris is the primary environment).
Cadence is considering to provide their tools under Linux.
But they are very relcutant to do so.
The reason is very simple ...
Supporting Linux requires more investments but not much returns.
(people are expecting cheaper prices when it comes to Linux.)
I'm very skeptical that you can get a decent CAE tools under Linux
within coming 3~5 years.
But please remember that all depend upon your goal.
If your goal is full-blown ASIC design, go for Solaris.
I saw many projects wasting money and time trying out PC base tools.
Hope you can find right tools and right CAE environment for you.
Aki-
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From: "JRR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Promblems with SCSI in RH 6.2
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:22:57 GMT
Same exact problem here with AHA-2940 U/U/W, 6.2 will load but I loose the
SCSI device on the reboot.
No HD, No O/S
Winblows worked as well as 6.0.
???/
Rick
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"Anthony Ewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Chris,
>
> Ouch!
>
> The only thing I can susgest is to upgrade the scsi bios
> on your 2940 card.
>
> Good luck,
> --Tony
>
>
>
> Chris Sutcliffe wrote:
>
> > I'll check it out...
> >
> > However, using Slackware Linux and Winblows, I could access
everything no
> > problem.
> >
> > Thanx!
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > > Hi Chris,
> > >
> > > Just a wild guess, but it sounds like a termination problem.
> > >
> > > Here are some tips:
> > >
> > > 1) turn all of your terminators off on your peripherals and use
> > > an "active" terminator at the end of your cable. (Yeh, active
> > > terminators cost more, but the passive ones have stopped
> > > working for years now.)
> > >
> > > 2) put your scsi card's bios into "automatic" termination
> > >
> > > 3) while you are in your scsi card's bios, use the "scan bus" utility
> > > to check for all your devices
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > --Tony
> > >
> > > Chris Sutcliffe wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to get my Adaptec 2940 SCSI card to work under
properly
> > > > under RedHat 6.2 (using aic7xxx module). Redhat detected the card
just
> > > > fine, the module is loaded at boot, however, when I access the
drives, I
> > > > keep getting an interruption. I noticed once that the SCSI bus was
> > > > getting reset.
> > > >
> > > > Anybody have any ideas how to fix the problem?
> > > >
> > > > Thanx!
> > > >
> > > > Chris
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Trantor t-160 scsi and Linux.
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:45:24 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela) wrote:
<a lot of good suggestions, omitted only because it's late >
I tried to post a reply on Sunday afternoon. It disappeared and
was never seen again.
The t-160 already had a fuse and diode. And it has been working
well under dos & windows. I tried the pas16 kernel. No success,
wouldn't load. So I listened to your your last idea, and swapped
the Trantor for an aha-151x/2x (clone?). Same general catagory,
and it's supported by linux.
So now I can spend my time figuring out other things about linux :-)
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From: Simon Tetu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP CD-RW hangs my machine... GOT IT OK!!!!
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:57:20 GMT
I disabled the UDMA mode for this device in my bios and everything works
great!!!!!!
Please forget about my message! ;-)
Simon Tetu wrote:
> Hi, I just bought a HP Cdwriter+ 8200 series (8250i)
> and I enabled the scsi modules in my kernel so it is recognized properly
>
> but if I try to mount it, it seeks the disk for a second or two and
> hangs my machine.. everytime!
> (I have to power it down to reboot)
>
> Though I can listen to Audio CD without problems...
>
> Anybody got an idea??
>
> Here's my config:
>
> #dmesg
>
> Detected 233032 kHz processor.
> ide_setup: hdd=ide-scsi
> ...
> hda: QUANTUM FIREBALL CR8.4A, ATA DISK drive
> hdb: WDC AC31200F, ATA DISK drive
> hdd: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 8200a, ATAPI CDROM drive
> ...
> scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
> scsi : 1 host.
> Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 8200a Rev: 1.0g
> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
> Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 8200a Rev: 1.0g
> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 1
> Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 8200a Rev: 1.0g
> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi CD-ROM sr2 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 2
> Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 8200a Rev: 1.0g
> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi CD-ROM sr3 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 3
> Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 8200a Rev: 1.0g
> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi CD-ROM sr4 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 4
> Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 8200a Rev: 1.0g
> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi CD-ROM sr5 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 5
> Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 8200a Rev: 1.0g
> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi CD-ROM sr6 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 6
> Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 8200a Rev: 1.0g
> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi CD-ROM sr7 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 7
> scsi : detected 8 SCSI generics 8 SCSI cdroms total.
> sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.09
> sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
> sr2: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
> sr3: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
> sr4: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
> sr5: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
> sr6: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
> sr7: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
> ...
> scsi : 1 host.
> sr0: CDROM not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive.
> cdrom: open failed.
> (this is normal, I haven't inserted a cd yet)
> ...
>
> # more /etc/conf.modules
> alias scd0 sr_mod
> alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
> options ide-cd ignore=hdd
>
> # more /etc/fstab
> ...
> /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro 0 0
> ...
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From: "Tony Newman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: UPS with serial port
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:18:40 -0700 (PDT)
Reply-To: "Tony Newman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 24 Jul 2000 20:43:01 -0400, David C. wrote:
>David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.) writes:
>>> David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for recomendations for UPSs that Linux can work with to
>>>> do a proper shutdown. Does Tripplite support Linux? I've been told
>>>> to avoid APC because it only puts out 90v on battery. I don't want
>>>> to waste my power supply.
>>>
>>> Please post a source for this crazy notion that APC's UPSs cut your
>>> voltage by 25% when on battery.
>>
>> A friend of mine used APCs and noticed problems when they switched
>> over. He measured the voltage output at only 90v.
>
>Then he's got a broken UPS. Or his batteries need replacing. I can
>assure you that mine (a BackUPS Pro 1400 and a cheap BackUPS 300) don't
>do this.
>
< the rest of the replies snipped >
One thing to watch out for is the waveshape of the power comming from
the UPS (while on battery). If it isn't a pretty good sine wave, it
can fool some meters into reading an incorrect voltage. I suspect you
are more apt to see this on the lower-end devices (both low-end UPS's
and low end meters).
My experience with APC devices has been very good. The only way I can
tell there has been a power problem while I was out of the room is an
entry in the PowerChute log. This is with a pair of SmartUPs 1400's,
supporting two 233MHz AMD K6 boxes, a 400MHz K6, a 700MHz Athlon, an
SB-180 CP/M box, and other minor stuff.
If I can remember to do so, I'll hang an oscillicope across an old
BackUps 400 at work and see what happens.
--
Tony Newman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Springfield, Oregon, USA
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From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: als4000 soundcard
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:30:04 GMT
Yup, been looking all over for the driver. Got to their website
www.avance.com and was able to see the driver, but it came back with an
FTP login that doesn't allow anonymous.
Fred
bumper8942 wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> does anyone know about sound-support for an ALS4000 based PCI-Soundcard
> (Asound Express)?
>
> alsa 0.5.7r10 as well as Kernel 2.2.14's sounddriver (3.8s) fail to
> support it. Though it should work as Sb16 it won't...
>
> Can anybody help?
>
> Thanx,
>
> Erik Twelker
>
>
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From: "adan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: insmod errors.WTF? (long post)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 02:37:33 -0500
Okay,here's the story. I'm trying to install nVidia's Geforce drivers on an
Athlon/Via KX133 combo. I've installed XFree86 4.0 and got it running (at
640x480 8-bit color). By the way, my card is a GeforceGTS and my distro is
SuSE 6.4.
I've successfully compiled the Geforce driver but insmod errors out with a
bunch of AGP-related "unresolved symbol" errors.
So, I compile the SuSE 2.2.14 kernel sources with "make menuconfig dep" and
compress and install it (with "lilo") in the boot directory. It boots up
fine so I think its okay.
Next, I delete the driver (named "NVdriver") and recompile it again with
"make SYSINCLUDE=/usr/src/linux". Again, no compile errors, but when I run
"insmod" I get the same AGP-related "unresolved symbol" errors.
Now I'm still fairly new to Linux, but I think that if I compile a new
kernel from the sources, then I should not get any "unresolved symbol"
errors when I compile the nVidia driver from the same sources. I only have
a vague understanding of how all this works,so if someone has any advice, I
would really appreciate it.
My own personal theory is that the nVidia drivers don't work with 2.2.14 or
there isn't any AGP support in the sources as provided by SuSE.
Fnal thought: Why does Red Hat get all the OEM support? Its not even a very
good distro (price wise ,at least).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (cLIeNUX user)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: A good IDE
Date: 25 Jul 2000 08:07:55 GMT
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>In comp.os.linux.development.apps cLIeNUX user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Didn't the term IDE in this context come from somewhere other than unix?
>
>> The "IDE" feature I use the most is "+", which is supported by Pico and
>> the "most" pager. When gcc says
>
>If by '+' you mean compile, parse errors and edit, then joe can do that
>quite easily.
No, I mean
pico +210 bletch.c
where 210 was the line gcc reported a fatal error on.
I noodled around briefly with vim's nascent IDE stuff, but even at that
level the problem I have with such things is they very strongly tend to
enforce a style. I'm sure emacs is great for writing gdb.
The only two "IDEs" I know of that don't make any un-toward assumptions
are Unix itself and Forth. Depends on how unique your code is as to how
much of a problem that is.
Rick Hohensee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Change boot parameters LILO
Date: 25 Jul 2000 07:54:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In aus.computers.linux on Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:54:31 +1000
Ken Crofts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>THANKYOU!
>I ran the above commands and my beloved Windows 95 is now back again. It
>looks as though I'll need to do a lot more reading on LILO and Linux in
>general to understand the system. On first appearance it certainly isn't
>user friendly, but I'm going to persevere some more and hopefully understand
>why so many people believe Linux is a Good OS.
>
It is a good Operating System. For what it is designed to do.
If one of your requirements for an OS is "user friendly, meaning there's
only one obvious way to do things and it's all hidden from me so I dont
have to do anything but run applications" then linux won't be a good OS
for you.
It's not meant to be "windows without microsoft's name on it".
It's not meant to be "a desktop OS for people who don't want to know
about computers".
It's a server operating system that can be used as a desktop machine.
It's good for programmers, for system admins, for people who like to play.
If the command line bores you, if reading man pages isn't your thing,
if you don't like to think and experiment and deduce... then Linux isn't
for you.
But if you do like to explore and experiment, if you are good at reading
and working out what to do from the written word, if you don't just want
a platform to run applications on, then linux could be a good OS for you.
But please please... be honest with yourself. This is *not* a user
friendly system. It is a powerful system, designed for people willing
to gain and use the skills needed.
Think of the nice cordless drill someone buys to use to hang a door.
No chuck, everything clearly labelled, all the drill bits in the box.
You don't need much skill, you just open the box get the drill out,
and go to work. Sure, it isn't exactly fulfilling but you just want to
hang a door.
Think of a small jobbing engineering shop, with manual lathes and mills
and tools and gear everywhere. The craftsman is there, twirling dials,
rigging tools, fast and efficient and producing wonderful things through
his skill and knowledge. Watch him and you'll have no clue why he's
doing the things he's doing. Why that dial? Why that tool? Why that
bit of metal stock and not that one? Why cut in that order?
If you are a person who just wants to hang a door you won't want to be
a fitting and turning apprentice. But if making things fascinates you
and you want to learn... then you'll go into that machine shop, sign
the apprenticeship papers, and start learning.
Knowing that you won't know much for the first year or two, and that
you will have to do a lot of work before you become worth your money.
If that's you.. welcome :)
Zebee
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