Linux-Hardware Digest #717, Volume #13           Thu, 12 Oct 00 21:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: LILO version 21.6 released (Rudi Sluijtman)
  Re: GA-6VXD7 anyone? (Gary Sandine)
  Re: Max number of partitions per disk? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: RH7 wont compile (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Max number of partitions per disk? (Hal Burgiss)
  Help - NetWave Wireless pcmcia card (Chuck Lidderdale)
  Re: Solution: Getting Linux to recognize many IDE drives... ("James T. Dennis")
  Re: Max number of partitions per disk? (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Death knell for Windows (Larry Ebbitt)
  Re: Which motherboad for a dual-PIII linux system? (Cokey de Percin)
  LVD ADR Tape Drive: What Controller? ("James T. Dennis")
  Re: re:eth0 problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Videocard GEFORCE2 MX GPU SUPPORT (powercolor) (root)
  Problem with SCSI bus (Bryan Siemon)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: LILO version 21.6 released
From: Rudi Sluijtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:02:12 GMT

John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> LILO release 21.6 is based upon Werner Almesberger's LILO version 21.

Could you please provide us with, or point to, some documentation about
the usage of the "- Completely new menu-driven user interface."

Regards,
Rudi Sluijtman.

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From: Gary Sandine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GA-6VXD7 anyone?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:55:22 GMT

Paul S. Aspinwall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone tried linux on a Gigabyte GA-6VXD7 motherboard yet?

Not that one - but we have used many Gig GA-6VX-4X's with great
success.

http://www.lanm-pc.com (Cheap Linux boxes)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Max number of partitions per disk?
Date: 12 Oct 2000 23:00:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:41:57 GMT, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> [root@feenix /root]# mke2fs -v -c  /dev/hdc12 mke2fs 1.18,
> 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 /dev/hdc12: Invalid argument
> passed to ext2 library while setting up superblock
>   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
>/dev/hdc1   *         1       969    488344+   6  FAT16
>/dev/hdc2           970      1017     24192   83  Linux
>/dev/hdc3          1018      1141     62496   82  Linux swap
>/dev/hdc4          1142     14055   6508656    5  Extended
>/dev/hdc5          1142      2304    586120+  83  Linux
>/dev/hdc6          2305      5404   1562368+  83  Linux
>/dev/hdc7          5405      5528     62464+  82  Linux swap
>/dev/hdc8          5529     10372   2441344+  83  Linux
>/dev/hdc9         10373     10760    195520+  83  Linux
>/dev/hdc10        10761     11148    195520+  82  Linux swap
>/dev/hdc11        11149     12117    488344+  83  Linux
>/dev/hdc12        12118     13086    488344+  83  Linux
>/dev/hdc13        13087     14055    488344+  83  Linux
>
>Can I run badblocks with no FS on the partition? Any pointers on how
>to use dd to do this would be good ;) I've had tried deleting and
>recreating these partitions with differing sizes. I get same error on
>13 BTW.  It is well under 32G. Fairly new drive and board. I didn't set
>any jumpers.
>Linux feenix 2.2.18pre15 #1 SMP Sun Oct 8 20:59:46 EDT 2000 i686 unknown

Hmmm.  badblocks works on partitions without a filesystem, but you can
use dd like so:  dd if=/dev/hdc12 of=/dev/null  and check if it writes
"Input/output error" to stderr.  *That* means either a hardware error or
something screwy in the kernel code.  The following command should
return the following results, too:
ls -l /dev/hdc1[2-3]
brw-rw----   1 root     disk      22,  12 Mar 24  2000 /dev/hdc12
brw-rw----   1 root     disk      22,  13 Mar 24  2000 /dev/hdc13

(Yeah, I know, but checking permissions and device #s and such could be
a good idea.)  14055 cylinders seems like a lot of cylinders for a disk
< 32G... my 13G drive has 1662 cylinders (I guess you don't have LBA
enabled here.)

-- 
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RH7 wont compile
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:06:24 GMT

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:01:50 -0500, havesum2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i have a news server i am building abit kt7 raid it uses hardware raid
>in RH6.2 it still sees the 2 - 45GB ibms as 2 drives. I upgraded to RH7
>and it wont compile the kernel that it came with.

You need to use kgcc for kernels. That is why it is there.

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Hal B
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Max number of partitions per disk?
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:18:16 GMT

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:07:04 -0400, bluster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>The command:
>
>[root@zephyr]# mke2fs -n -v /dev/hdc12
>
>might give you some useful info.
>-n ==> do not make fs just display what would be done
>-v ==> display verbose output

I didn't mention it, but I tried -v:

[root@feenix /tmp]# mke2fs -n -v /dev/hdc12
mke2fs 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hdc12: Invalid argument passed to ext2 library while setting up superblock

Same difference. Thanks though.

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Hal B
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From: Chuck Lidderdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.network,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help - NetWave Wireless pcmcia card
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:18:13 GMT

I have a laptop running RH7.0.  I'm trying to get a NetWave Wireless
pcmcia
card to work - /etc/pcmcia/config... knows about the card.   Any one out
there
have it working or know how to make it work?

Thanks
Chuck


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From: "James T. Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Solution: Getting Linux to recognize many IDE drives...
Date: 12 Oct 2000 23:25:51 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Before I complained that long command lines to the kernel were truncated.

> I was trying to do something like:
>    append="hde=7473,255,63 hdg=7473,255,63 hdi=7473,255,63 hdk=7473,255,63"
> To get the right C/H/S numbers for four 60G Maxtor drives.
> If I don't do this I get crazy C/H/S numbers from my Promise Ultra66
> controller.

 It sounds like you're running the same sort of setup that I'm 
 trying to put together right now (except that I'm using 40Gb Maxtors).

 I'm trying to put together a "little" fileserver here at the house.
 Since I've never actually used Linux' software RAID support I figured 
 I'd do that to make it a more interesting experiment.  (The fileserver
 will start as just a play machine and a place for the laptops and other
 machines here at the house to rsync their backups.  So I don't my 
 going a little crazy with hdparm for a few weeks of testing).

 Here's my configuration: I started with an Iwill motherboard 
 (a bit older with a 150Mhz CPU 2 UDMA/33 IDE channels built-on) which 
 is already conveniently installed in an old fileserver case (7 drive
 bays, 4 external and 3 internal).  I had a couple of 6Gb drives in it
 already, and an 8x ATAPI CD-ROM.  I bought 2 Promise Ultra/66
 controllers and 4 40Gb SCSI drives (three for a RAID 5 and one as a 
 spare; particularly for testing).  I also bought 4 drive bays and
 removable carriers, and couple of extra 80-wire 40 pin cables, 
 of course.  

 This way I can put each of the  UDMA/66 drives on its own 
 controller channel (leaving the two older IDE drives for my OS 
 and scratch space, and a "snapshot" (periodic mirror) and my CD 
 on the on-board controllers.

 So that's six IDE channels and 7 devices in toto.  Here's the 
 layout:

        Controller:             Device0:        Device1:
          Primary                 6Gb Seagate      6Gb IBM
          Secondary               CD-ROM           none
          Tertiary                /dev/hde         none
          Quartenary              /dev/hdg         none
          Quintenary              /dev/hdi         none
          Hexanary                /dev/hdk         none

 (BTW: I don't know if "quintenary," and "hexanary" are
 valid words, but I think the meaning is clear).

 Once I've done that I'll configure /dev/hd{e,g,i} as
 members of a RAID 5 group.  /dev/hdk will usually be
 left unmounted.  Sometimes I might mount it to take a 
 snapshot backup (although will have only half the capacity
 of the two active RAID volumes).  However, it's only an
 extra; I'll mostly use it for testing the volume recovery
 features of the array.

 I might add an Onstream ADR 30 Gb tape drive to this mess.
 Though I'm not fond of the idea that it might not be able 
 to backup my full 40Gb volumes on a single tape. However,
 I'm just playing around with this; so I might make two 30 Gb
 volumes in the RAID 5 and use additional 10Gb partitions 
 as a RAID 0+1.  If I understand the HOWTOs correctly it should
 be possible to do this using partitions like:

        /dev/hd{e,g,i}1         30Gb
        /dev/hd{e,g,i}2         10Gb

 ... and then --- Ooops... If I stripe {e,g}2 that's gives me
 20 Gb and I can't mirror that to the 10Gb on /dev/hdi2.  I'd
 have to stripe in 10Gb of space from somewhere else.  Maybe
 I'll use (/dev/hdk after all).

> The bad news is that Linux appears to truncate the command line and only
> get the parameters for the first two drives.  (This was verified by changing
> the order on the command line.)

> The good news is that if I get a single drive right and then use fdisk
> to put a partition on it, Linux remembers the partition table on reboot.

> So, even though Promise, or whatever other controller you're using, messes us
> the geometry that doesn't matter!

> It is a HACK but it works...

        It will be interesting to see if that happens with
        my 40Gb Maxtors

>   Richard
> PS: I'm running 2.2.16 with Hedrick's patches dated 25 Aug 2000.

        Those are the ones at http://www.linux-ide.org/?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Max number of partitions per disk?
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:30:31 GMT

On 12 Oct 2000 23:00:29 GMT, Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>
>>Can I run badblocks with no FS on the partition? Any pointers on how
>>to use dd to do this would be good ;) I've had tried deleting and
>>recreating these partitions with differing sizes. I get same error on
>>13 BTW.  It is well under 32G. Fairly new drive and board. I didn't set
>>any jumpers.
>>Linux feenix 2.2.18pre15 #1 SMP Sun Oct 8 20:59:46 EDT 2000 i686 unknown
>
>Hmmm.  badblocks works on partitions without a filesystem, but you can
>use dd like so:  dd if=/dev/hdc12 of=/dev/null  and check if it writes
>"Input/output error" to stderr.  *That* means either a hardware error or
>something screwy in the kernel code.  The following command should
>return the following results, too:

[root@feenix /tmp]# dd if=/dev/hdc12 of=/dev/null
0+0 records in
0+0 records out

In the blink of an eye...

>ls -l /dev/hdc1[2-3]
>brw-rw----   1 root     disk      22,  12 Mar 24  2000 /dev/hdc12
>brw-rw----   1 root     disk      22,  13 Mar 24  2000 /dev/hdc13

Yea, looks just like this.

#ll /dev/hdc12
brw-rw----    1 root     disk      22,  12 Aug 24 05:00 /dev/hdc12


>(Yeah, I know, but checking permissions and device #s and such could be
>a good idea.)  14055 cylinders seems like a lot of cylinders for a disk
>< 32G... my 13G drive has 1662 cylinders (I guess you don't have LBA
>enabled here.)

It is 13.6G now that I have something to refresh my memory...

# hdparm -i /dev/hdc

/dev/hdc:

 Model=Maxtor 51369U3, FwRev=DA620CQ0, SerialNo=K3H2GVEC
 Config={ Fixed }
 RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=-66060037, LBA=yes, LBAsects=26520480
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
 PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 
 DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 

fdisk stills show a fair amount of unused free space.

$strace mke2fs -n -v /dev/hdc12

open("/dev/hdc12", O_RDONLY)            = 3
ioctl(3, BLKGETSIZE, 0xbffff7fc)        = 0
close(3)                                = 0
write(2, "/dev/hdc12", 10/dev/hdc12)              = 10
write(2, ": ", 2: )                       = 2
write(2, "Invalid argument passed to ext2 "..., 39Invalid argument passed to ext2 
library) = 39


On a different partition that produces what you'd expect:

$strace mke2fs -n -v /dev/hda9

open("/dev/hda9", O_RDONLY)             = 3
ioctl(3, BLKGETSIZE, 0xbffff7fc)        = 0
close(3)                                = 0
open("/dev/hda9", O_RDWR)               = 3
time(NULL)                              = 971393124
brk(0x8061000)                          = 0x8061000
brk(0x8069000)                          = 0x8069000
access("/dev/urandom", R_OK)            = 0
open("/dev/urandom", O_RDONLY)          = 4
[...]

Not sure what this means, but I can't see anything obviously wrong. ???
This is updated RH7, BTW. 

Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:40:51 -0400
From: Larry Ebbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Death knell for Windows

Adam Short wrote:
> 

I surely hope you are right. A dick-simple install and a pretty,
friendly interface are what it's going to take and it seems close.

-- 
Larry Ebbitt - Linux + OS/2 - Atlanta

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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which motherboad for a dual-PIII linux system?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:53:56 GMT

william wrote:
> 
> check out this link at toms hardware:
> http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q3/000911/index.html
> 
> "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jay Norwood wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you actually tried an S2510?
> > > Jay
> > >
> > > "Mark Slicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:8qtoff$l0m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I would recommend Tyan S2510.  On this page
> > > > http://www.compute-aid.com/rack1u.html, there is
> > > > a link about that board.
> > > >
> >
> > I would suggest almost anything that is NOT an i840 chipset. It has
> > IO-APIC problems.

I've been looking at a new dualie for some time and the variety is getting 
quit good; from low end at ~$125 up to about ~$700.  There a number of very
high quality ones from Tyan and ASUS.  As far as the Tyan 2510 goes, it's 
nice if you need a low profile board for a rack mount, but not very 
expandable.  The 2500 is much nicer and despite what Tyan says, it IS 
available if you look.   A friend of mine just bought 4 @$280 each (one's
mine) and they're super nice.  The chipset is the ServerWorks HE, which is
AFAIC the best going. 

Best

Cokey  

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From: "James T. Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LVD ADR Tape Drive: What Controller?
Date: 13 Oct 2000 00:08:09 GMT


 All,

 I was thinking about buying one of those Onstream ADR 50 Gb
 tape drives yesterday.  My old 4mm DAT autochanger isn't 
 working any more.

 I noticed that this is an LVD SCSI drive.  I realize that 
 this requires special LVD cables and terminators.  However,
 does it also require a special controller?  

 If so what are some reasonable controllers.  These drives cost 
 about $800 ($950 for the external model) and the tapes cost 
 about $50.  I have no other LVD SCSI equipment.   The box copy
 on the drive and on the various controllers was all useless.

 Reading the Onstream FAQ (http://www.onstream.com/...)
 I see no mention of special requirements in the controller.  They
 do specifically mention that the external drive comes with an 
 LVD cable and "multi-mode active terminator."  

 
 Searching Google! Linux I find the following note: 



mt -f /dev/nst0 stoptions scsi2log

                This command will reset the drive to properly identify
                tape positions and other status related information.

 (http://www.linuxtapecert.org/adr50_notes.html)

 ... and no note of special controller requirements (though they
 do emphasize the need for LVD cable, with twisted pairs and an
 active terminator).

 None of the other hits indicate any special limitations on 
 hardware compatability.  So I'm wondering if LVD only affects
 the cabling and termination and doesn't require special 
 support on the controller.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: re:eth0 problem
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:20:37 GMT

I am using Intel810 motherboard. It has built-in intel's 82559 10/100
ethernet controller.

Dale Khehra

In article <SvnF5.5173$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Michael W. Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What type of Ethernet card is it?  My Realtek 8029 would hang RH6.2
for a
> long time > a couple of minutes!
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8s4uuc$roa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am able to install redhat6.2 without any problem. After
Installation
> > when I reboot the system, it hangs at "Bringning up the interface
eth0".
> >
> >
> > Any idea what might be wrong?
> >
> > Dale Khehra
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:30:15 -0400
From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Videocard GEFORCE2 MX GPU SUPPORT (powercolor)

Hi,
XFree86 4.0.1 + The nvidia drivers from www.nvidia.com work fine with my
GeForceMX card. More details can be found on the nvidia site. Look unders
drivers.

-bharath

Antwerp Linux User Group wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is already someone working/has a driver for
> Xfree 4.0 or 3.3.x.x.x which works with a videocard and the GEFORCE2 MX
> GPU chipset 32MB?
> The card I bought is a Powercolor Powergene MX Gamecard nvidea 4x/2x AGP
> Powercolorenergized.
> It has a 350 RAMDAC with resolutions up to 2048x1536@75hz with TV-out.
> Support for Open GL Optimizations.
> I tried Geforce 256 GTS and similar but it didn't work. Probably because
> of reduction in the hardware (see description of Geforce MX 4-->2
> pipes).
> Does anyone have a solution?
> Respond to this  news group AND directly to the address below.
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> Thanks
>
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From: Bryan Siemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with SCSI bus
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:50:18 GMT

Howdy,
    I'm running RH 7.0 with the 2.2.17 kernel. I have my IDE burner (HP
8100i) setup to simulate a SCSI device so I can burn CDs. Perviously, it
was taking 0,0,0 on my SCSI bus. Recently, I finally got my SCSI card
running under Linux (its a DTC3181e). That card took the 0 bus and my
simulated SCSI devices took bus 1 (so now my burner is 1,0,0) When I
tried to open xcdroast 0.98 to burn a CD,  it tells me that something on
my SCSI bus has changed and to check my reader/writer configuration in
setup. Then, the program closes with ** ERROR **: non existing cdrom I
tried to uninstall and then reinstall xcdroast, but I still get the same
error. I also tried xcdroast -i  (to skip SCSI detection so I can change
the config settings) and I still no luck. Does anybody know where I can
find xcdroast's config file so I can manually edit it? Is there any
kernel parameter to switch my SCSI buses around so my DTC takes the 0
bus and my burner takes the 1 bus? Right now, I have two different
kernels, one with support for my DTC and one without, so I can use
xcdroast. It is annoying switching between the 2, and I would much
rather fix this problem using one kernel configuration... any
suggestions?

Bryan


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