Linux-Hardware Digest #365, Volume #14           Sun, 18 Feb 01 12:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: Gateway ALR 7200 sever and Redhat ("Brian McKerr")
  Trying to install RedHat 7.0 on an hp...please help (Anonym5530)
  Re: Zip 250 as easy as Zip 100? (Markus Kossmann)
  IDE Controller Compatibilty ("A. Dean Caulfield")
  Re: Can't get CD-RW working under RH 7.0 (Giulio Orsero)
  Re: new hard drive woes during linux installation (Chris Elvidge)
  Re: joystick driver on RH7 (2.2.16) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  ASUS video cards in Linux (David Heath)
  Install help:  Crusoe laptop with only a PCMCIA CD-ROM drive? (Steven M. Casagrande)
  ASUS vs ABit motherboards ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Should I abandon SCSI? ("Folkert Rienstra")
  Orinoco wavelan, ISA-PCMCIA adapter on linux ("Hans-Christian Prytz")
  Re: Big Brother is watching you............................please read               
                                    .  9696 ("Fluri Dave")
  Re: Can't get CD-RW working under RH 7.0 ("Rinaldi J. Montessi")
  Re: ASUS video cards in Linux ("Brett I. Holcomb")
  Re: ASUS vs ABit motherboards ("Brett I. Holcomb")
  Re: Framebuffer help needed (Matthias)

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From: "Brian McKerr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gateway ALR 7200 sever and Redhat
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 19:40:34 +1000

I had one of these, the only thing that annoyed me was the Extended ATX
size, it will not fit in an ATX box. The box that you need to get is pretty
expensive too (certainly here is Australia !)

Have fun,

"Patrick Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:w7yj6.7508$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am looking to build a high reliabilty server and have found a source of
> high end MB's
>
> They are surplus gateway ALR 7200 sever boards with dual channel adaptec
> 7980 +  RAID port
>
> www.adc-ast
>
> Has 4000449 Gateway ALR 7200 Server Motherboards $99
>
> w / Digital 21150 PCI-to-PCI Bridge,
>
> Chip set is intel BX
>
> The lengthened slot is a shared PCI/RAIDPort, which will accommodate
either
> a PCI adapter card or an Adaptec RAIDPort III controller.
>
> Any hope for linux runnig on this with out too much work, it's the
Digital
> 21150 PCI-to-PCI Bridge that concerns me.
>
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anonym5530)
Date: 18 Feb 2001 10:01:29 GMT
Subject: Trying to install RedHat 7.0 on an hp...please help

Hi,
I am trying to install Red Hat 7.0 onto an HP 8750C pavillion machine.  I
cannot turn of the Intel 810 onboard video card, and RedHat's anaconda won't
work...nor will x.  I have an ati video card installed that I would prefer not
to have to remove everytime I want to run linux.  
I've used linux for many years...just have no experience with extreme technical
dificulties like this.  If you have any ideas as to what I can do...besides
throw the machine away =)  I'd love to hear them.  If you need more
information, please feel free to let me know.
I'll try and check this ad within the next day or so
you can also get ahold of me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank you

Jon

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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zip 250 as easy as Zip 100?
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:24:37 +0100

Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:09:13 -0600, Jorge Alvarez staggered into the
> Black Sun and said:
> >I know how to use my current Iomega Zip drive (100 MB) on my Linux
> >system. I have plans to upgrade to a newer Zip 250 in the near future.
> >Can the later be used in such an easy way as the Zip 100?
> 
> If your ZIP 250 is the same type (IDE/ATAPI, SCSI, parallel-port) as
> your old ZIP 100, then all you'll need to do is physically swap the
> drives.  [...]
With one exception : If your old parallel ZIP 100 uses the ppa driver,
you will have to move to the imm driver for the ZIP 250.   
-- 
Markus Kossmann                                    
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "A. Dean Caulfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IDE Controller Compatibilty
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:22:58 -0500

I am looking for recomendations for an IDE Controller that is compatable 
with Redhat 6.2 (original Kernal)

I am running a P III

on an Itel 440BX board I am looking into a knew hard drive  But I 
already have two on the machine. Unfortunately the boot drive (hda) is 
only two gigs on a dual boot (NT4.0/Linux) system. I have had a rather 
experienced friend help me try to get Linux to see the SIIG ATA 33 card 
that I curently have in  place to no avail. Further more SIIG's sight is 
little help since they do not support Linux & their Tech Support people 
(e-mail) were surly at best.

One last thing , I strongly recomend avoiding SIIG Cards If you are 
running Linux or NT
my e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thank You
DEAN


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From: Giulio Orsero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't get CD-RW working under RH 7.0
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:12:07 +0100

"Sean Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:

>I'm trying to get my Plextor W8/4/32A working under my RH 7.0 and am not

>       hda: Maxtor 91728D8, ATA DISK drive
>       hdc: PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W8432T, ATAPI CDROM drive
>       hdd: CREATIVECD4831E, ATAPI CDROM drive
>       ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
>       ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
>       hda: Maxtor 91728D8, 16479MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=2100/255/63
What happens if you:
1) take out everything (ide-scsi) from lilo.conf (since rh70 uses
modular ide-cd, nothing is needed) and redo "/sbin/lilo"
2) use just 
options ide-cd ignore=hdc
in modules.conf
and nothing else
3) add
modprobe ide-scsi 
in rc.local
?

This way creative should be /dev/hdd (ide-cd) and plextor /dev/scd0
(ide-scsi)

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Chris Elvidge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new hard drive woes during linux installation
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:30:15 +0400

Matt Garman wrote:
> 
> I posted earlier about a warning that my SCSI controller reports on boot
> in regards to a new hard drive.  Now I'm experiencing definite problems,
> adn I don't know if it's related to the controller warning or not.
> 
> Anyway, what I ultimately want to do is have the new drive be the drive
> from which I boot.  Currently the new drive is /dev/sdb and the old drive
> is /dev/sda.
> 
> I was trying to install Debian on my new drive, and I first had trouble
> installing lilo.  When it tried to install lilo, it said it failed because
> my installation occurred past the 1024th cylinder.  So I went back an
> repartitioned my drive, but this time I included a 10 MB /boot partition
> to satisfy lilo's needs.  (That alone seemed like a work around: my first
> paritioning scheme had my / (root) partition on a 512 MB partition; this
> is where the kernel image would have gone, and I don't think 512 is too
> big).
> 
> But when I made the 10 MB /boot partition, I was able to complete the
> install.  Again I made a 512 MB / (root) partition.  The root partition

512 Mb is not enough for a full install if this is the only partition,
try 1.5G.
If it won't fit it will mess up (sic)!

> was on /dev/sdb3 (my third partition; /dev/sdb2 was my swap partition and
> /dev/sdb1 was /boot).  But when I rebooted, trying to test out the new
> system (the one I just installed), fsck reported that /dev/sdb3 was quite
> messed up.  It wouldn't finish the boot process until I manually ran fsck.
> 
> I gave up and rebooted into my old system.  I manually ran fsck on
> /dev/sdb3 and it had *tons* of errors.  Where do all these errors come
> from on a freshly partitioned/formatted drive?  How do they come up during
> the *installation* process?
> 
> And does one think this has something to do with the controller's error
> message on boot, the one that goes something like this:
> 
> Warning!  255 heads, 63 sectors parameter expected.  There will be problem
> under OS other than DOS.
> 
> Could I have a termination problem?
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> --
> Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "I must not fear.  Fear is the mind-killer."
>         from _Dune_ by Frank Herbert

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: joystick driver on RH7 (2.2.16)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:56:08 GMT

root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,

> I'm a newbie and I'm trying to get my joystick configured .

> My system:
> Red Hat 7 (2.2.16-22smp)
> Joystick : MS SideWinder Precision Pro USB (I can connect in the
> gameport without the USB adaptor)

> The joystick drivers joystick-1.2.15 come with RH7, and they can be
> loaded as modules by default.
> I am able to load joystick.o, but if I try to load the hardware specific
> driver (joy-sidewinder.o), it
> gives me the following error:

> [root@localhost /root]# insmod joystick
> Using /lib/modules/2.2.16-22smp/misc/joystick.o
> [root@localhost /root]# insmod joy-sidewinder
> Using /lib/modules/2.2.16-22smp/misc/joy-sidewinder.o
> /lib/modules/2.2.16-22smp/misc/joy-sidewinder.o: init_module: Device or
> resource busy
> Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters,
> including invalid IO or IRQ parameters

> Anyone has any clue ??

Hey, I have the same problem! I have an old Gravis PC GamePad. I tried to
build the device with MAKEDEV but all I got was this:

MAKEDEV: device: unknown major number for Joystick

Is there a HOWTO on this? I didn't see anything on Linuxdoc. Maybe someon has
seen an article on this somewhere?

Thanks,

L

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From: David Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ASUS video cards in Linux
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:06:59 -0500

Does anyone use any of the Asus video cards with Linux?  I see they have
good prices.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven M. Casagrande)
Subject: Install help:  Crusoe laptop with only a PCMCIA CD-ROM drive?
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:58:49 GMT

I've just bought a Fujitsu P1000 (Crusoe), with USB floppy and PCMCIA
CD-ROM drive.  The P1000 won't boot from the CD-ROM, but I can get it
to boot the RH6.2 Linux install floppy.  However, once there I can't
figure out how to get it to recognize the PCMCIA CD-ROM drive so I can
continue with the rest of the installation.

Also, if anyone has tried Linux on one of these types of boxes, I'd
love to hear from you (or get a pointer to a how-to).  This box is
relatively new (bought in Hong Kong), not available in USA yet except
through grey market (maybe under the Japanese model Loox-S).  It has:

  Transmeta Crusoe TM5400 533Mhz
  128MB/15GB
  1024x512TFT (Rage Mobility-M)
  Lucent Softmodem AMR
  Acer/ALi audio
  USB, PCMCIA

I'm not expecting to get the modem to work, and don't care about the
audio too much.  I will set it up to dual-boot WinME and Linux
(probably 2.2.14 because I've got the media here).

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Regards,

Steve Casagrande
Hong Kong

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ASUS vs ABit motherboards
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:21:47 GMT

Hi,

I'm in the process of shopping around to upgrade my system. I currently have a
P-120 with an ATI Mach64 card, a couple of IDE drives, Creative Labs 8x CD and
a Soundblaster card (don't remember what but it's PnP/PCI).

I want to upgrade to an Athlon 1GHz and 512MB of memory. I'm trying to figure
out if I should go with an ASUS or an ABit board. I'm also going to get a
Thunderbird CPU. I see that there have been a flurry of newer boards from ASUS
and ABit. Has anyone purchased those noards? What type of problems (if any)
did you have?

I'm also going to buy an IBM Deskstar 45 or 70GB drive. In certain posts I've
seen that the drive can cause a problem. If it matters any, I plan on
installing Mandrake 7.2.

Will I be able to keep some of the hardware from the old system? What type of
hardware will I be able to keep?

Thanks,

L

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Reply-To: "Folkert Rienstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Folkert Rienstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Should I abandon SCSI?
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:20:56 +0100
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi


"Stuffed Crust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:96n8oi$43d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: In comp.periphs.scsi Ron Reaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >>No, it is significantly less reliable than even a single disk.
: > Nope.
: >>much exactly half as reliable.
: > Twice small is still small.
: > Yep,  but for small numbers the likelihood of failure is still small.
: 
: *shrug*
: 
: Raid-0 and reliability:
: 
: Instead of loosing everything on your disk when one dies, you loose
: everything on all disks when one dies.   Twice nothing is still nothing.
: 
: Which is why if your data is of any importance at all, you won't trust it
: to a RAID0.   RAID1 is the minimum, and even then you should make 
: regular backups onto something physically seperate.
: 
: If RELIABILITY is a criterion, then RAID-0 is flat out.

Make that:
'If RELIABILITY is a criterion, then RAID-0 AND Single Disk are flat out'.

: 
: RAID0+1 would work though... but if you're going to throw that many 
: disks at it, you might as well go to RAID-5.
: 
: But anyway.
: 
:  - Pizza
: -- 
: Solomon Peachy                                    pizzaATfucktheusers.org 
: I ain't broke, but I'm badly bent.        
: Patience comes to those who wait.
:     ...It's not "Beanbag Love", it's a "Transanimate Relationship"...



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From: "Hans-Christian Prytz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Orinoco wavelan, ISA-PCMCIA adapter on linux
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:06:08 +0100

Hi, I just got my radiolink ingernet connection installed, and I was
wondering if anyone has had experiences with the Lucent Orinoco pcmcia card,
and the matching ISA adapter under Linux.

I have read some posts (on Deja/Google, what's the real name now anyhow?)
from people saying they have gotten it to work, and I've heard something
about an oss driver. How does this compare to Lucent's driver?

Secondly, has anyone tried to use two of these cards in one machine? I want
to have a internal wireless LAN in addition to the WAN link going out. Any
experience with this anyone?

Hoping for a good response,

Hans-Christian

--
Hans-Christian Prytz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Fluri Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Big Brother is watching you............................please read        
                                           .  9696
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:56:48 +0500

And why do you presume that your WIndows software should be spammed to _this_ group?

-- 

Dave Fluri
North Bay, Ontario  Canada

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From: "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't get CD-RW working under RH 7.0
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:17:08 -0500

Sean Murphy wrote:
> 
> >
> > I have a similar set up to yours hardware wise.  I did recompile my
> > kernel for generic scsi support, although I've read it is not absolutely
> > required.  Secondly, I used this link for setting things up.  It was
> > written in part by the fellow who gave us cdrecord, so I trust his
> > abilities.
> >
> >   http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO
> >
> I did take a look at that one and I don't think I had much luck with it,
> but honestly I'm getting confused about what I've tried and haven't tried
> so maybe I'll run with that one again!
> 
> Any chance I could get more information on your setup?  How many drives,
> where they are at on your IDE bus, etc. Especially if I could see what
> commands  you put in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, /etc/modules.conf,
> and in your /etc/lilo.conf files would be really helpful.

[root@Senior /root]# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 1.9 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jörg Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 2.1.39
Using libscg version 'schily-0.1'
scsibus0:
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities
page.
        0,0,0     0) 'CD-ROM  ' 'Drive/F5B       ' '1.10' Removable
CD-ROM
        0,1,0     1) 'TEAC    ' 'CD-W54E         ' '1.1B' Removable
CD-ROM
        0,2,0     2) *
        0,3,0     3) *
        0,4,0     4) *
        0,5,0     5) *
        0,6,0     6) *
        0,7,0     7) *  

I've never found a good explanation for the Warning; but it appears
harmless - meaning I do make cd's not coasters.

When running something like xcdroast, I will get the sg module (scsi
generic) loaded (lsmod); but as I said earlier, I have scsi generic
support built in to the kernel as a module.  From dmesg:

scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
scsi : 1 host.
  Vendor: CD-ROM    Model: Drive/F5B         Rev: 1.10
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
  Vendor: TEAC      Model: CD-W54E           Rev: 1.1B
  Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
scsi : detected total.

Do you have your kernel source?  Adding it is relatively simple; and you
really can't break anything on your running system.  Does require a
reboot, however.  Take a look at the kernel how-to. 

There are no entries either in either my lilo.conf or modules.conf
pertaining to this.               

-- 
Rinaldi]$
When we remember we are all mad the mysteries disappear and
life stands explained.  - Mark Twain

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From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASUS video cards in Linux
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:46:30 -0600

The V7700 will work with Caldera eDesktop 2.4 IF you upgrade to XFree86
4.02.  I installed eDesktop, set it up to boot to runlevel 3 since I the
Asus wasn't supported under the installed version of XFree86 (3.3x IIRC).  I
then updated with all security and other patches, then downloaded the
XFree86 4.02 binary, installed it and it runs fine.

--
Brett I. Holcomb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft MVP
AKA Grunt<><


"David Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Does anyone use any of the Asus video cards with Linux?  I see they have
> good prices.
>



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From: "Brett I. Holcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASUS vs ABit motherboards
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:47:17 -0600

I use ASUS boards on Intel and haven't tried the AMD yet but I have been
very happy with the Asus boards.


--
Brett I. Holcomb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Microsoft MVP
AKA Grunt<><


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:fMRj6.467$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of shopping around to upgrade my system. I currently
have a
> P-120 with an ATI Mach64 card, a couple of IDE drives, Creative Labs 8x CD
and
> a Soundblaster card (don't remember what but it's PnP/PCI).
>
> I want to upgrade to an Athlon 1GHz and 512MB of memory. I'm trying to
figure
> out if I should go with an ASUS or an ABit board. I'm also going to get a
> Thunderbird CPU. I see that there have been a flurry of newer boards from
ASUS
> and ABit. Has anyone purchased those noards? What type of problems (if
any)
> did you have?
>
> I'm also going to buy an IBM Deskstar 45 or 70GB drive. In certain posts
I've
> seen that the drive can cause a problem. If it matters any, I plan on
> installing Mandrake 7.2.
>
> Will I be able to keep some of the hardware from the old system? What type
of
> hardware will I be able to keep?
>
> Thanks,
>
> L



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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:55:37 +0100
From: Matthias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Framebuffer help needed

Eric Wertman wrote:

> Hello-
>
> Could anyone point me to a good source of information on framebuffer support
> besides the current HOWTO?  I've tried what is outlined there without luck.
> I'm trying to get a 800x600 or 1024x768 @16bpp on an ATI Rage mobility and
> compaq monitor.  I know it works because I had mandrake installed for a
> short period of time and it was configured automatically, but I can seem to
> set it up myself.  none of the modes that I have tried work (the ones in the
> HOWTO and the ones listed with vga=ask.)
>
> Any help greatly apprecieated.  Thanks!
>
> Eric Wertman

Hi

In the german Linux Magazin(10/2000) is an article about framebuffer.
Here are some links taken of the list included in the article:

http://www.linux-fbdev.org
http://www.linux-fbdev.org/mlist.html
home.tvd.be/cr26864/Linux/fbdev

    Matze


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