Linux-Hardware Digest #633, Volume #14 Mon, 16 Apr 01 15:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Microsoft gets hard ("JS PL")
Re: today's harddrives will surely fail before dialup users manage to fill them up?
(Peter da Silva)
Re: Controlling network printer ("carpahacer")
Re: Controlling network printer ("carpahacer")
Problem with PCMCIA CDROM (nam)
Re: Buying a Dell Laptop, compatability feedback please (Harold Stevens
US.972.952.3293)
Screen going black with ATI Rage 128 Pro (Niklas Karlsson)
Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? (Paul Repacholi)
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From: "JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft gets hard
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 14:11:47 -0400
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:06:23 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> >"JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >> "unicat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>
> >> > Of course there's a name for companies that trusted Microsoft as a
> >> busniess
> >> > partner...extinct!
> >>
> >> Which one is extinct? There's about 32,000 Certified Business Partners
> >> Organizations. And about 6 million developers using Microsoft
Development
> >> tools.
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/business/partners/
> >> Which one became extinct? Ass.
> >>
> >> You really shouldn't Drink & Write.
>
> Of course those numbers supplied by Microsoft on the page you referenced
> is a lie. Try going to the link on that page that let's you find a
> Microsoft "partner" and see what happens.
OK, I come to a few pages which lets me narrow the big list:
United States | English | California |
I then narrow my search to Web Developers (from a choice of about 16
services) | Within 100 miles of Los Angeles
And end up looking at a list of 285 companies.
That looks pretty proportional to their claim of 32,000 worldwide!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To: comp.arch.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject: Re: today's harddrives will surely fail before dialup users manage to fill
them up?
Date: 16 Apr 2001 18:11:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
J. Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fraid that linearity is a poor assumption. You can have 1 megabyte of
> data stored, and depending on how it's broken up it can take one
> directory entry or a million.
But it is unlikely that additional data added to the same cache will vary
significantly, but rather follow a similar statistical distribution. But for
the worst case, you're looking at about 4k per entry based on the sizes of
the smallest web pages out there. A given cache may vary by a constant, but
that's just an O(1) effect and doesn't change the essential O(logN) lookup
and insertion time.
> > > How much RAM do you need to do this?
> > Enough to hold the key and one directory name.
> Care to provide some _numbers_?
128 bits for the key, 64 characters for the directory name, plus the length
of the longest URL in the cache.
--
`-_-' In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva.
'U` "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek about anything."
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disclaimer: WWFD?
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From: "carpahacer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Controlling network printer
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:13:26 +1000
"carpahacer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:...
The 4219 printer is difficult to setup.
You have to rarp to the printer to configure the network card's ip address
then telnet <host> 2002.
rarp isn't installed in most disrtributions these days, so you might have to
install it as a module.
read man rarp
rarp -s hostname hw_addr
--set hostname hw_addr
Create a RARP address mapping entry for host host
name with hardware address set to hw_addr class,
but for most classes one can assume that the usual
presentation can be used. For the Ethernet class,
this is 6 bytes in hexadecimal, separated by
colons.
Chris
"Victor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3ad7a174$0$25510$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> G'day Folks
>
> I have an old Xerox 4219/MRP laser printer that has the capability to run
as
> a network printer. Xerox does apparently have some TCP/IP software for it
> for Unix.
> The printer itself has an rj-45 and aui connector on the back but says the
> networking is not configured when the configuration tests are run.
>
> Does anybody know of similar software for Linux (Redhat 7.0).
> It would be interesting to see it working.
>
> cheers
>
> /Victor
>
>
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From: "carpahacer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Controlling network printer
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:49:59 +1000
No worries Victor
The knowledge comes from having to do it myself
It is hard to get documentation on those old printers, they are mostly end
of life.
Check with your local Xerox office.
www.xerox.com
or www.xdss.com which has a link to buy the manuals (get the 720P14500
4215/4219 MRP TC/IP Operator Guide $ 40.00
maybe the
720P13060 4219/4215/MRP MidRange Systems Printer Operator Guide $
63.00
or the
720P13070 4219/4215/MRP MidRange Systems Printer Quick Start $ 16.00
You can order online.
Chris
email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
remove the nospam
"Victor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Just a little followup.
> I finally got the printer working over a network using linux. Now I just
> have to get the Win machines to see it.
>
> thanks again Chris.
>
> /Victor
>
>
> carpahacer wrote:
>
> > The 4219 printer is difficult to setup.You have to rarp to the printer
> > to configure the network card's ip address then telnet <host>
> > 2002.rarp isn't installed in most disrtributions these days, so you
> > might have to install it as a module.read man rarprarp -s hostname
> > hw_addr --set hostname hw_addr
> > Create a RARP address mapping entry for host host
> > name with hardware address set to hw_addr class,
> > but for most classes one can assume that the usual
> > presentation can be used. For the Ethernet class,
> > this is 6 bytes in hexadecimal, separated by
> > colons. Chris "Victor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > message news:3ad7a174$0$25510$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...>
> > G'day Folks
> > >
> > > I have an old Xerox 4219/MRP laser printer that has the capability
> > to run as
> > > a network printer. Xerox does apparently have some TCP/IP software
> > for it
> > > for Unix.
> > > The printer itself has an rj-45 and aui connector on the back but
> > says the
> > > networking is not configured when the configuration tests are run.
> > >
> > > Does anybody know of similar software for Linux (Redhat 7.0).
> > > It would be interesting to see it working.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > /Victor
> > >
> > >
>
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From: nam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with PCMCIA CDROM
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:40:23 +0800
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I have a Acer Travelmate notebook with PCMCIA CDROM. When I first
installed RedHat Linux 7.0 (Kernel 2.2.16-22) it can detected my cdrom.
However, after I upgraded the kernel to 2.4.2, the cdrom was no longer
work. I have tried follow the CDROM-HOWTO to check the kernel for
Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL disk/cdrom/tape support (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE)
[Y/n/?]
Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD) [Y/n/?]
ISO9660 cdrom filesystem support (CONFIG_ISO9660_FS) [Y/n/m/?]
but it didn't work.
I checked the /proc/devices but there was no ide1
Was I missing something when configuring the kernel?
The two attachment were the dmesg for the 2 kernels.
Thanks for any help.
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Nam
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Linux version 2.4.2 (root@Sega) (gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.0)) #2 Mon
Apr 16 12:35:28 HKT 2001
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 000000000009f800 @ 0000000000000000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000800 @ 000000000009f800 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 000000000000f400 @ 00000000000f0c00 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000004f00000 @ 0000000000100000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000000f400 @ 00000000ffff0c00 (reserved)
On node 0 totalpages: 20480
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 16384 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=trial ro root=303 BOOT_FILE=/boot/vmlinuz-new
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 199.962 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 398.95 BogoMIPS
Memory: 77840k/81920k available (1337k kernel code, 3692k reserved, 570k data, 188k
init, 0k highmem)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 008001bf 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0
Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled.
CPU: After vendor init, caps: 008001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: After generic, caps: 008001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 008001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Intel Mobile Pentium MMX stepping 01
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfda13, last bus=0
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:04.0
got res[10000000:10000fff] for resource 0 of O2 Micro, Inc. 6832
got res[10001000:10001fff] for resource 0 of O2 Micro, Inc. 6832 (#2)
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
isapnp: Scanning for Pnp cards...
isapnp: Card 'YAMAHA OPL3-SAx Audio System'
isapnp: Card 'LT Win Modem'
isapnp: 2 Plug & Play cards detected total
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.14)
Starting kswapd v1.8
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP(,...)]
parport0: irq 7 detected
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
block: queued sectors max/low 51565kB/17188kB, 192 slots per queue
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 21
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
hda: HITACHI_DK239A-65, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: 12685680 sectors (6495 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=839/240/63
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 >
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
NTFS version 000607
Serial driver version 5.02 (2000-08-09) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP
enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
PPP generic driver version 2.4.1
opl3sa2: Activated ISA PnP card 0 (active=1)
opl3sa2: chipset version = 0x4
opl3sa2: Found OPL3-SA3 (YMF715E or YMF719E)
opl3sa2: 1 PnP card(s) found.
ad1848/cs4248 codec driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
es1371: version v0.27 time 12:47:02 Apr 16 2001
Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.22
options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm]
PCI: Assigned IRQ 9 for device 00:06.0
PCI: Assigned IRQ 9 for device 00:06.1
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
PCI: Enabling device 00:04.2 (0000 -> 0001)
PCI: Assigned IRQ 9 for device 00:04.2
uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xfcc0, IRQ 9
uhci.c: detected 2 ports
Yenta IRQ list 0c98, PCI irq9
Socket status: 30000411
Yenta IRQ list 0c98, PCI irq9
Socket status: 30000411
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb.c: registered new driver usblp
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 8192)
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed
Adding Swap: 90680k swap-space (priority -1)
cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x240-0x24f 0x388-0x38f 0x4d0-0x4d7
cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.
cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: excluding 0xa0000000-0xa00fffff
eth0: NE2000 Compatible: io 0x320, irq 3, hw_addr 00:A0:0C:45:21:38
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Linux version 2.2.16-22 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66
19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Tue Aug 22 16:16:55 EDT 2000
Detected 199963 kHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 398.95 BogoMIPS
Memory: 79156k/81920k available (1048k kernel code, 412k reserved, 1240k data, 64k
init, 0k bigmem)
Dentry hash table entries: 262144 (order 9, 2048k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 131072 (order 7, 512k)
Page cache hash table entries: 32768 (order 5, 128k)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: Intel Mobile Pentium MMX stepping 01
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfda13
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Enabling I/O for device 00:22
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 131072 bhash 65536)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
Serial driver version 4.27 with MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.13)
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 21
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfcf0-0xfcf7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
hda: HITACHI_DK239A-65, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: HITACHI_DK239A-65, 6194MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=839/240/63
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MAX_REAL=12
raid5: measuring checksumming speed
raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines
pII_mmx : 296.037 MB/sec
p5_mmx : 351.663 MB/sec
8regs : 213.741 MB/sec
32regs : 159.258 MB/sec
using fastest function: p5_mmx (351.663 MB/sec)
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
md.c: sizeof(mdp_super_t) = 4096
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 >
autodetecting RAID arrays
autorun ...
... autorun DONE.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 64k freed
Adding Swap: 90680k swap-space (priority -1)
Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.19
kernel build: 2.2.16-22 #1 Tue Aug 22 16:16:55 EDT 2000
options: [pci] [cardbus] [apm]
PCI routing table version 1.0 at 0xfdf90
Intel PCIC probe:
O2Micro OZ6832/33 rev 34 PCI-to-CardBus at slot 00:06, mem 0x10000000
host opts [0]: [pci/way] [pci irq 9] [lat 168/176] [bus 32/34]
host opts [1]: [pci/way] [pci irq 9] [lat 168/176] [bus 35/37]
ISA irqs (default) = 3,4,5,7,10,11,12,15 PCI status changes
cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: excluding 0xcf8-0xcff
cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean.
cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7
cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.
cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: excluding 0xa0000000-0xa00fffff
eth0: NE2000 Compatible: io 0x300, irq 3, hw_addr 00:A0:0C:45:21:38
hdc: CD-ROM CDR_U240, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide1 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 5
ide_cs: hdc: Vcc = 5.0, Vpp = 0.0
hdc: ATAPI 23X CD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.10
cdrom: open failed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harold Stevens US.972.952.3293)
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.laptop
Subject: Re: Buying a Dell Laptop, compatability feedback please
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:51:47 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[Snip...]
>can it be hotswapped?
Dunno. That's why I'm asking. :)
I would suppose not, if the CD is IDE, as I presume. I also suspect there
are custom cables and other interfaces for simultaneous floppy/CD use but
I'd rather not fool with that if hotswap and/or CD boot is available.
--
Regards, Weird (Harold Stevens) * IMPORTANT EMAIL INFO FOLLOWS *
Pardon the bogus email domain (dseg etc.) in place for spambots.
Really it's (wyrd) at raytheon, dotted with com. DO NOT SPAM IT.
Standard Disclaimer: These are my opinions not Raytheon Company.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niklas Karlsson)
Subject: Screen going black with ATI Rage 128 Pro
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:55:38 GMT
Hello,
I have an ATI Rage 128 Pro card, which works fine with XFree 4.0.1,
but in virtual consoles, both in text mode and with SVGAlib applications,
the screen goes black after a few minutes. The only way I can get it
to light up again is to switch to X (ctrl-alt-F7). If I'm not running
X at the time, I'm basically SOL, I could possibly type a startx command
blindly. Inside X, however, it behaves just fine.
This problem seems to occur both with kernels 2.2.18 and 2.4.[23].
I've tried a variety of kernel configurations, with various APM
settings as well as without any APM support at all compiled in, but
it's still the same. This is quite annoying, as I don't want to be
forced to run X all the time, and whether or not I'm running X I
want to be able to use the virtual consoles for extended periods
of time. Of course, this is especially much of a nuisance with
SVGAlib games - the screen goes black just as I'm trying for a
new highscore in 'thrust'. ;)
I can't seem to find any mention of this problem in the relevant
places, either from the XFree86 project or from ATI.
My machine is a P3-733 with VIA chipset.
Does anyone have any idea what the problem is, and how I can fix it?
Thanks,
Niklas
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
From: Paul Repacholi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 Apr 2001 01:57:16 +0800
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "franek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I could never understand this enamoration with HTML-based
> > interfaces. There's a good case for using HTML in a normal
> > web-based environment, but why the hell one would want to use this
> > crude and slow method in a standalone system is beyond me.
> Well, there are a lot of reasons why one might want to do this.
> 1) rollout of new versions is effortless. Just install the new
> pages, scripts, etc.. and it just works the next time they load a
> page. You can do this by centralizing the apps in a traditional
> environment as well, but then you have to get everyone to exit their
> processes and reload. This isn't something you would want to do
> automatically because users might have a page up for a specific
> reason, and killing it on them could be disasterous.
> 2) You can use very low-end hardware for terminals (win 3.1 boxes
> even).
Great if you have no solvents, dust, high power machinery...
As I said, get factory experience and understand *the* factory.
Cutting $20 bucks won't go far when you are explaining the reasons for
destroying $100M of plant and killing 5 people.
Oh, and rolling out new versions is NEVER effortless. It can take 6
months or more of extensive testing before you 'roll out'. And if you
think that it becomes easier by adding a huge jump in complexity...
--
Paul Repacholi 1 Crescent Rd.,
+61 (08) 9257-1001 Kalamunda.
West Australia 6076
Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.
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