> > In spam-fighter lingo, a ``bulk friendly ISP'' is an ISP willing to
> > tolerate its users sending unsolicited bulk email, which is one of the
> > more common definitions for spam. (Although not all spam fighters
> > agree on that definition.)
>
> What about solicited bulk email? A customer may quite legitimately
> send bulk emails to a gazillion people who specifically requested
> them. A non-commercial example: what if I run a mailing list on my
> computer and am connected through an ISP?
Yeah, so? I said ``unsolicited bulk email''. I didn't say that mailing
lists were bad.
> Just about any good thing in this world can be abused. The fact that
> there are people who abuse good ideas (good technology, good anything)
> shouldn't lead to prevention of legitimate use of the ideas
> (technology, etc). IMHO.
That's sad but true, which is why if you run a mailing list and don't
take the basic precautions to protect yourself from abuse then you're
part of the problem.
FWIW, outfits that run more traditional mailing lists (i.e., periodical
newsletters telling you about their latest cool stuff) are considered to
be spammers if they don't specifically request permission from people to
send them email.
> Think about really bad cases - being spammed by an ISP, for instance.
> For quite some time I was being spammed by GeoCities (not a GeoCities
> account - the GeoCities themselves). Whom do you complain to about
> this? I complained to GeoCities many times, they never as much as
> acknowledged my emails. It stopped only after GeoCities were bought
> up. ;-)
The question is, did they keep spamming you while you were complaining?
Merely lack of response is not a crime, as long as the spam stops.
Otherwise, it's a case for an RBL nomination.
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