On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 02:47:02PM +0300, Yotam Rubin wrote:
> Most revered sir.
> 
> That does not imply cluelessness, it's a highly inflammatory statement.
> X window is not a GUI. Besides, what's a paradigm for a GUI? I find the
> Windows GUI horribly illogical and user-hostile. 
> KDE and GNOME are well documented, unlike their Windows counterpart, which aims
> at obscuring very important details. Microsoft has simply convinced the general
> public that it has created a "user-friendly" OS. He does not deserve to be 
> flamed, we should simply make him aware of his error via conventional means.
> 
>       Regards,
> 
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:50:22AM +0200, Alon Barzilai wrote:
> > not clueless?
> > look what he wrote me this morning:
> > 
> > "I did not write that Linux started in 1997. As for GUI, it still
> > doesn't
> > have one in the conservative sense. The GUIs offered are more like
> > elaborated skins than real GUIs."
> > 
> > X windows is elaborated skins? 

Nah. From the authors's statement it looks that he is quite clueful,
but is strongly and unconventionally opinionated (or at least, quoting
the opinion of someone else who is strongly and unconventionally
opinionated). If he were truely clueless he'd say something like "I
wouldn't call it a GUI while you still have to use the command line
for most things". His original statemet is too different from the
usual media conception of Linux for me to believe that the difference
between his opinion and ours results from lack of knowledge. It
implies that he knows Gnome and KDE have many flashy themes, for
example.

But then again, I have never spoken to him... I wonder what he means
by "GUI in the conservative sense".

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