If you will all allow me to conclude that awfully long, frustrating, deaf
convresation thread:
1) There are people who believe copyright laws should be changed to
reflect current state of technology.
2) There are people that due to that belief allow themselves to break the
current Israeli law.
3) There are those who break the law without any concern for the
philosophical part of whether the law should be changed, just because it
is easy.
4) There are those who believe that the law should not be changed.
5) several opposite point of views turn (usually) into a heated discussion
of (1)+(2)+(3).
6) Most of us either already participated in this debate, and if we havent
we can always send mail to people holding the opposite view.
7) That is why we have different mailing lists for discussions, technical
stuff, etc.
So sum it up:
A) Hamakor will not help to break the law, even though they have no
problem with changing the law. *
B) Discussions (especially somehting not 100% related to Linux) are better
off in other forums. If you want to debate the advantages of
My-Linux-is-the-best, this mailing list might be the right forum. If you
want to deal with philosophy, go get degree in that.
C) Please respect the people registered to this mailing list and dont
answer debatefull mails for the sake of debate (unless its Linux related).
D) dont join the thread, please.
Listening to my own request I shall finish now.
* The author have never been a part of Hamakor, its board, managament, or
any other body, so Im just coping what Alon said.
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On Wed, 25 May 2005, Oron Peled wrote:
On Tuesday 24 May 2005 22:32, Shlomi Fish wrote:
... distributing a copy non-commercially isn't infringing on one's
copyright,
Darn, Shlomi, are you keep mixing facts and fiction by accident
or are you trolling us?
Copyrights deals with distribution rights. If you distribute 1,000
copies of a song not copyrighted by you -- you infringed
the copyrights on this song even if you did it for charity.
[ even this isn't a theft, it is still an law breaking ]
The only thing copyrights has to do with "commercial" distribution
is in relation to "Fair Use". If you try to prove you acted
according to fair use -- than commercial distribution would
prevent this defense:
- Example for "traditional" Israeli law:
http://www.itpolicy.gov.il/topics_security/cr_law.htm
- For "modern" US law (you may want to look at section 107)
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf
because traditional copyright law does not allow the copyright
holder to prohibit someone for doing that with a public work.
Ok, let's go REALLY traditional:
"the author and authors of any map, chart, book or books already
printed within these United States, being a citizen or citizens
thereof....shall have the sole right and liberty of printing,
reprinting, publishing and vending such map, chart, book or
books...."
Signed by George Washington on May 31, 1790
http://earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/firsts/copyright/
Now, please Shlomi, go and read some real law documents so we
can focus on the real problems (e.g: "eternal" copyrights,
patents on generic ideas [e.g: software], etc.)
Good night (or morning),
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