When people start choosing what laws to obey and what not, it is the fastest way to chaos. The fact is that you still break the laws of the sovereign, democratic entity you're part of, and that would make you an outlaw, a criminal. And about the economic system - didn't you ever hear about the term "The Domino Effect"? Music for example pays salaries of numerous of people, allowing them to be able to buy other products and services, and by that help other people receive a paycheck. Producing and trading copyrighted materiel is still producing and trading, which is, as you stated, are the foundation stones of our economic system. Saying that the fact you can't smell/touch it makes it ok, is so... uhmm, idiotic? As far as I know, you're not an ostrich, so don't burry your head in the sand.
-- Imri Zvik PGP (2.6.3ia) Public Key: http://mariska.inter.net.il/~imriz/imriz.pgp -----Original Message----- From: Shlomi Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:58 PM To: Imri Zvik Subject: Re: Acting against anti-file-swapping Lawsuits in Israel On Wednesday 25 May 2005 13:11, you wrote: > Shlomi, > > It's not a matter of if in your ideal imaginary world such thing should > be legal, and one person who bought a copy of a > book/cd/dvd/software/whatever could redistribute it (with, or without > payment) to the whole wide world. Hmmm... > In the real world, redistributing copyrighted materiel without approval > is ILLEGAL, it doesn't matter if the term for it is "stealing" or > anything else - it would still make you a CRIMINAL. Please don't call me a criminal. Especially if I only violated an unethical law. I also don't call drug users/traders/etc. criminals, because the drug prohibition laws are unethical. > if you do that, why > would anyone pay for it? The whole economic system would collapse, and > millions will lose their jobs, and the ability to buy food. The economic system will not collapse, because people still don't _steal_ (not copy, mind you) food, or tools, or machines, or other things which cannot be represented as bit-buckets. Most of the economic system is about producing, trading, and using such physical entities, without which we as human beings cannot live at all or live at comfort. So don't BS me. > In the bottom line, Shlomi, you are trying to find excuses for being a > cheap-ass, who is trying to avoid paying for your pleasures. When I go to the cinema or to a concert or to Disney World or to a vacation, etc. I pay because they provide me with a greater experience than I can provide myself at my own home. And it involves a physical experience too, greater than just sitting on my computer or at home listening to a song or watching a movie or whatever. OTOH, why should I necessary pay for a bit bucket, which costs close to zero to reproduce. FYI, an entity that makes money out of selling a product whose development cost may be very large, but the cost of producing a single unit is zero, is simply called a "parasite" in economics. If it costs zero to mass-produce and re-distribute, one should not complain if people copy or re-distribute it on their own. There's nothing wrong with that. > This is the > law, and this is our economic system, deal with it. It may be the law, but it's an unethical law. And the economic system will not fall if people completely stopped paying for bit buckets. (not to mention, that I don't think it will happen). > > This thread is the most idiotic thread ever seen on this list - don't > you people have better topics to discuss? I've seen more idiotic threads. Regards, Shlomi Fish --------------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.shlomifish.org/ Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of paragraphs. ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
