On 12/15/2010 07:25 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:06 PM, geoffrey mendelson
<geoffreymendel...@gmail.com <mailto:geoffreymendel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There are plenty of them around. No one wants them because you can
buy a new computer with 1g of DDR2 or DDR3 RAM for less money than
1g alone of DDR(1) RAM.
Exactly.
There are two different Intel Graphics chip sets. I don't know
which is which, but a quick search should answer the question. The
earlier ones are chips that Intel bought a license to manufacture.
They are not very good in general and have closed source drivers.
This makes them OK for Windows, a problem for Linux. The second
are the newer ones Intel designed and builds.
Well, i5-650 is supposed to be a member of the Clarkdale family, and
its little brother (i3-530) was reviewed, e.g., here
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzkwOA
<http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzkwOA>
- driver problems reported, GPU hangs, etc. But the date is Jan 22,
2010 - maybe there has been driver progress in the last 11 months?
My 2 cents:
I personally have ASUS P7H55 M-Pro with i3-530 processor + 4GB RAM(
bought at KSP for ~1400 NIS) running kernels 2.6.32- 3.6.36.2
Although the latest 2.6.36.2 still continues to patch intel chipset I915
(drm patches) I did not noticed any problem with graphics.
The only issue I have is a sound :
in 2.6.32 no hdmi sound, alsamixer did not recognize sound card
in 2.6.36 - no sound at all, alsamixer shows too much non-existent
controls but no hdmi output, it thinks it had Intel IbexPeak HDMI chip
I think i will post it in separate post, because I slipped from a subject
Intel's support/download page does not say a word about Linux - there
are drivers for every Windows in the Galaxy, but there don't seem to
be any proprietary Intel HD Linux drivers.
Oron, can you comment? ;-)
As for buying an I5 processor, there are newer I3's with similar
performance (for example 3gHz instead of 3.6gHz) for a lot less money.
Indeed, i3-540 3.06GHz is ILS505, while i5-650 3.20GHz is ILS815 at
KSP. From what I see, the latter has VT-d that I may want to play with
(or maybe not) that comes with Intel TXT ("trusted execution
technology"), unfortunately, and Turbo Boost Frequency that sounds
nice to have.
Various benchmarks that I saw (lies, damned lies, statistics, and
benchmarks) seem to indicate a difference in overall performance, but
not all that much.
Thanks for pointing this out.
As for realtek, they tend to have cheap chips, which generallty
work well. If you are concerend about support, check the exact
model number of the chip as they keep changing them and the linux
drivers do not always "keep up".
When you buy a mobo make sure you are getting one that supports
full 64 bit addressing.
The H55 chipset seems OK in this respect -
http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/322169.pdf
Be warned that most of the current production really cheap (around
600 NIS) LCD screens only have VGA ports.
My LCD has a DVI port, but I never bothered to get a cable.
There are not a lot of things that run on Linux that use the extra
acceleration in expensive graphic cards, on the other hand if you
are also going to run Windows on it
Not unless it is in a VM for some as yet unidentified specific purpose.
(see my other comment below) and play high end games (Fallout New
Vegas anyone?) you will need an extra "hot" graphics card.
No, I did say games were out of scope.
If you plan on running Windows on it, then IMHO you should buy a
name brand such as HP, Packard Bell, etc. The difference in cost
between them and a roll-your-own system is about the cost of a
Windows license. If you do not plan on running Windows on it, it
pays IMHO to buy a "local" company's product, e.g. Ivory or KSP
and avoid the extra cost.
No Windows or Mac OSX, so I'll stick to KSP or Ivory who seem to have
competitive prices. Besides, I don't like HP for various reasons, and
I wouldn't touch PB (they still exist?!) with a ten foot pole. ;-)
Thanks, Geoff,
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Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org <mailto:p...@goldshmidt.org>
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