You should not be working toward a certificate when you are looking for
work. You should do it when things are good so that you can concentrate on
it.
There are times when "the tide has changed" and no one is interested in
what you do, or not in hiring someone new. Then you have no choice.

Geoff.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 18:47 Amichai Rotman <amic...@iglu.org.il> wrote:

> Thank you.
>
> I am not looking for work right now, but I hear what you're saying...
>
> Maybe I'll do them all.... ;-)
>
> Amichai.
>
> 2015-06-10 18:23 GMT+03:00 Dan Yasny <dya...@gmail.com>:
>
>> The problem with trivia based certification is that it's so easy to get
>> without actually knowing anything. Download braindumps, go over them a few
>> dozen times, and you can pass any exam that is based on standard questions.
>> In Europe and the US, high-end IT shops know this full well, and they would
>> only look at certifications that are more implementational than trivial, or
>> at actual experience, especially because there's a huge, dirt-cheap
>> workforce out there with MCSEs and CCNAs, and no real world experience.
>> None of those guys would pass an RHCE exam, because there, you'd have to
>> actually sit down in front of a machine and do real actions, instead of
>> memorizing braindumps and redumping them.
>>
>> So if the goal is to find a job in high-end IT companies, banks and so
>> on, you have to keep in mind that a trivia based cert with no experience to
>> back it up will take you nowhere.
>>
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Geoffrey Mendelson <
> geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think you should consider your audience more than yourself.
>> If you are an employee ask your boss to pay for it. If they refuse ask
>> them what they will pay for.
>> If they won't pay for anything, ask them what certifications would make
>> you  more valuable to them if you got them at your own expense.
>>
>> If you are a contractor/consultant, ask your clients. If you work through
>> an agency or marketing person, ask them what would get you better jobs.
>>
>> My guess is that Microsoft and Cisco certifications will be worth more as
>> it shows that you know how to "play well with others" and (almost) no one
>> has a 100% linux shop.
>>
>> Geoff.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:53 PM Dan Yasny <dya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's more a matter of prestige than anything else. LPI is about knowing
>>> trivia, RH** is about knowing how to do real work.
>>> On Jun 10, 2015 9:49 AM, "Amichai Rotman" <amic...@iglu.org.il> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you revisited the certifications recently?
>>>>
>>>> I'll look into RHCE and RHCA too.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to get certified for something valid in Europe and the US as
>>>> well as in Israel to do freelance jobs.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> 2015-06-10 16:37 GMT+03:00 Dan Yasny <dya...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> I took LPI 1 and 2, and CompTIA L+ back in 2007-2008, it wasn't really
>>>>> worth much and the level was basic. If you want a meaningful 
>>>>> certification,
>>>>> aim for RHCE and the courses that compose the RHCA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Amichai Rotman <amic...@iglu.org.il>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking of getting an LPI certification [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Wanted your 2 cents about it:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it worth it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is the best to start with?
>>>>>
>>>>> and so on...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Amichai
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://www.lpi.org/
>>>>>
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