Hi,

I estimate it's about 15 to 20 minutes after reboot that I can start apache
successfully. Otherwise, I can't start apache.

אורי
u...@speedy.net


On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 7:23 AM Eli Marmor <e...@netmask.it> wrote:

> Please run:
> apachectl start
> from the command line, and copy the response to this list.
> If there is no error, please copy the relevant lines from the error.log of
> apache2.
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 7:12 AM אורי <u...@speedy.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Running the command "sudo apachectl configtest" returns "Syntax OK".
>>
>> Running "sudo systemctl restart apache2" doesn't respond. But a few
>> minutes ago it worked and the website worked. I rebooted again and now
>> again it's not working. The problem is that apache doesn't restart after
>> rebooting.
>>
>> אורי
>> u...@speedy.net
>>
>>
>> ‪On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 6:29 AM ‫אורי‬‎ <u...@speedy.net> wrote:‬
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your suggestion, I decided to upgrade to 18.04.4 and I ran a
>>> few times the following commands (from root):
>>>
>>> sudo apt autoremove
>>> sudo apt-get update
>>> sudo apt-get upgrade
>>> sudo apt update
>>> sudo apt upgrade
>>>
>>> I have 4 servers and I upgraded all of them and 3 of them are working
>>> properly, however one server apache is not working, I can't restart apache
>>> (with "sudo systemctl restart apache2" - it's not responding) and the
>>> website is not working. How can I fix it now?
>>>
>>> The server didn't respond after reboot once (after 2 reboots) and I had
>>> to shut it down and restart it again.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Uri
>>> אורי
>>> u...@speedy.net
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:29 PM Micha Bailey <michabai...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Regarding the upgrade to Focal (20.04): There’s no reason to rush.
>>>> Bionic (18.04) is supported, if I’m not mistaken, until 2023. In fact,
>>>> Bionic (LTS) users aren’t even offered the upgrade (i.e. you need to go out
>>>> of your way to get it) until 20.04.1 is out in a few months.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the upgrade to 18.04.4, I could be mistaken, but my
>>>> understanding is that point releases aren’t new versions of Ubuntu per se.
>>>> At point releases, new isos are spun with up-to-date packages, but it’s
>>>> still the same version. Assuming you make a habit of installing updates
>>>> regularly (which you obviously should be), you will effectively
>>>> automatically be on 18.04.4.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:44 PM אורי <u...@speedy.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I have a staging server which I can upgrade first to 18.04.4
>>>>> to see if it works, or if something breaks. But I didn't find it on Google
>>>>> - how do I upgrade an OS to Ubuntu 18.04.4 (from 18.04.*) without 
>>>>> upgrading
>>>>> it to 20.04?
>>>>>
>>>>> אורי
>>>>> u...@speedy.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:19 PM Shlomi Fish <shlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Uri!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ‪On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 5:30 PM ‫אורי‬‎ <u...@speedy.net> wrote:‬
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sorry for posting twice in the same day to the same mailing
>>>>>>> list. But I have a question: I'm using Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS for a few
>>>>>>> production servers (one of them I upgraded a few months ago from 14.04).
>>>>>>> How important it is to upgrade the OS version, or can I keep it like 
>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>> I'm afraid that things will break up if I upgrade. And if I upgrade, 
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> I upgrade to Ubuntu 18.04.4 or 20.04? I think since 20.04 has been 
>>>>>>> recently
>>>>>>> released, it might have bugs which will be fixed later, and I prefer 
>>>>>>> not to
>>>>>>> use the first version of 20.04 but to wait about one year before I use 
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> Is there a risk with keeping using 18.04.3? Or should I upgrade at 
>>>>>>> least to
>>>>>>> 18.04.4?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've answered the general question here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/shlomif/Freenode-programming-channel-FAQ/blob/master/FAQ_with_ToC__generated.md#will-a-change-i-would-like-to-do-break-some-functionality
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will a change I would like to do break some functionality?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the aphorism
>>>>>> <https://github.com/shlomif/shlomif-email-signature/blob/master/shlomif-sig-quotes.txt#L1988>
>>>>>> goes: The difference between theory and practice is that in theory,
>>>>>> there is no difference between theory and practice, while in practice,
>>>>>> there is.. There is usually a risk, however small, that a change
>>>>>> will break some functionality. With good tooling (such as
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Version_control ,
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine and
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-level_virtualisation ) it should be
>>>>>> relatively easy to revert a change which introduced regressions, and you
>>>>>> should do adequate testing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A change may have to be avoided due to being estimated as too time or
>>>>>> money consuming, or as having too little gain. However, promising changes
>>>>>> should be attempted because:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. "No guts - no glory."
>>>>>>    2. What does "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" really mean?
>>>>>>    
>>>>>> <https://szabgab.com/what-does--if-it-aint-broke-dont-fix-it--really-mean.html>
>>>>>>    3. If you never change anything, your project won't progress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>> While you may break some functionality by updating to 18.04.04 , you
>>>>>> also risk being affected by known security vulnerabilities (which may 
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> break functionality sooner or later). There is a concept of
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_debt .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding updating to 20.04, it is likely more time consuming and may
>>>>>> have more breaking changes, and you may not need all the newest and
>>>>>> shiniest software versions there, and you may wish to only update to 
>>>>>> ubuntu
>>>>>> 22.04/etc. I didn't hear of too many horror stories of ubuntu 20.04 being
>>>>>> unusable or unstable, but I'm quite out of the loop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Uri.
>>>>>>> אורי
>>>>>>> u...@speedy.net
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Shlomi Fish https://www.shlomifish.org/
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> http://shlom.in/reply .
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