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On 09/05/2021 20:51, Omer Zak wrote:
Except I, as a mailing list administrator, did not get it (and, yes, I did check the spam folder). As I said before, I'm not sure whether that was done on purpose or not.After sending the E-mail message reproduced below, I checked the mailing list archives and did not find there Diego's E-mail. So he apparently limited his E-mail message's distribution to his victim and to the mailing list's administrators. I have no particular opinion about "right". I highly doubt it was "smart". Like I said before, however, my opinion on the matter worth exactly as much as what you've paid to hear it.However, I believe that Ori did the right thing by letting the Linux-IL mailing list members know that some people want to unsubscribe him from this mailing list due to an indictment. I was referring to your bold assertion that Ori was incriminated. An assertion that, as far my personal evidence gathering has turned out, seems highly far-fetched. With that said, I'm sure that if Ori will forward me the slander suite he promised he is filing against Y-Net, I will find it illuminating, and am entirely open to the possibility I will change my mind.On Sun, 2021-05-09 at 20:28 +0300, Omer Zak wrote:However, in more enlightened times, the courts in Israel used to work under the principle that a person is presumed to be innocent until proven otherwise. This is equivalent to: you failed to prove a point, so we assume the opposite point when we need to make decisions. Regrettably, the courts have not been following this principle in the case of Tair Rada's murder and presumably in other cases. The courts, in Israel and elsewhere, have been known to err in the past. I'm not sure Roman Zadorov's case is a good example, except in above-mentioned court of public opinion, where he made a very effective campaign indeed. Anyone who wants to debate the issue with me is kindly requested to:
BTW, there is a name for someone who has a strongly held opinion
on the matter and have not done #2 above yet: prejudice. Willfully
ignorant probably also fits the bill. I am old fashioned so I happen to prefer the traditional presumption of innocence, as long as is not abused by lawyers who nitpick the meaning of words in laws. You do realize that society is not bound by above mentioned presumption on innocence, and in many cases, nor should it. With that said, as I mentioned before, I don't think Ori's, or anyone else's, behavior unrelated to this list should matter for the question of whether they should be able to continue to post here. Shachar |
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