Again, notice that Traceroute will only go so far before something decides
that it doesn't want to forward ICMP packets:

traceroute digital.isracard.co.il
traceroute to digital.isracard.co.il.cdn.cloudflare.net (192.118.12.104),
64 hops max, 40 byte packets

1  192.168.32.1 (192.168.32.1)  3.622 ms  3.371 ms  2.538 ms
 2  <REDACTED> 5.977 ms  5.642 ms  6.083 ms
 3  <REDACTED>  (45.80.89.177)  5.825 ms *  6.241 ms
 4  <REDACTED> (82.102.142.225)  8.577 ms  7.060 ms  5.909 ms
 5  212.68.139.25 (212.68.139.25)  8.887 ms  9.314 ms  11.950 ms
 6  212.68.139.26 (212.68.139.26)  9.720 ms  9.321 ms  16.892 ms
 7  172.18.80.109 (172.18.80.109)  9.310 ms  9.175 ms  16.953 ms
 8  172.18.80.113 (172.18.80.113)  8.410 ms  9.501 ms  9.115 ms
 9  10.88.192.138 (10.88.192.138)  12.311 ms  11.764 ms  12.262 ms
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  * * *
.
.
.

Meanwhile, TCPTraceroute makes it all the way to CloudFlare:

tcptraceroute digital.isracard.co.il

Selected device en0, address 192.168.33.135, port 53568 for outgoing packets
Tracing the path to digital.isracard.co.il (192.118.12.104) on TCP port 80
(http), 30 hops max
 1  192.168.32.1  7.913 ms  2.666 ms  2.091 ms
 2  <REDACTED>  5.718 ms  5.807 ms  5.347 ms
 3  <REDACTED>  5.453 ms  6.793 ms  9.184 ms
 4  <REDACTED>  5.451 ms  5.664 ms  5.330 ms
 5  212.68.139.25  9.101 ms  8.580 ms  8.278 ms
 6  212.68.139.26  9.326 ms  8.641 ms  8.412 ms
 7  172.18.80.109  8.544 ms  8.313 ms  8.733 ms
 8  172.18.80.113  8.874 ms  9.004 ms  9.591 ms
 9  10.88.192.138  12.118 ms  11.818 ms  11.854 ms
10  192.118.12.9  14.237 ms  11.852 ms  11.419 ms
11  192.168.100.246  12.564 ms  22.025 ms  12.236 ms
12  192.118.12.104 [open]  11.632 ms  12.071 ms  12.289 ms


192.118.12.104 == digital.isracard.co.il.cdn.cloudflare.net

On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 3:42 PM Shlomo Solomon <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You are absolutely right.
> After several hours on the Isracard Whatsapp, they asked for my public
> IP and were able to allow me access.
> Obviously I do not know why I was blocked or how they un-blocked me,
> but all is well now.
>
> I asked for an explanation of what was the cause, but I doubt that they
> will answer me.
>
>
> On Tue, 13 May 2025 15:29:24 +0300
> Michael Tewner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > You're reaching CloudFlare because Isracard uses the CloudFlare CDN in
> > order to cache and secure the website. I assume they're specifically
> > using CloudFlare's Web Application Firewall service to block unwanted
> > requests at the perimeter instead of allowing unwanted traffic to
> > make it to their servers.
> >
> > As such, digital.isracard.co.il is resolving (using CNAME records) to
> > CloudFlare's service.
> >
> > Keep in mind that "ping" and "traceroute" aren't proper tests for
> > connectivity to HTTP and HTTPS services. Most platforms, including
> > CloudFlare, will block these requests (both are based on ICMP
> > packets, not TCP). A better check would be something like
> > tcptraceroute, but even those may be blocked by Web Application
> > Firewalls (WAF) for a multitude of reasons, including identifying the
> > request as a "scan" due to its low TCP TTL values.
> >
> > Anyways, the reason you're not getting through seems to be that
> > CloudFlare thinks you're a risk for some reason.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 3:16 PM Dotan Shavit <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > בברכה,
> > > דותן שביט,
> > > 0544-456656
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 13 May 2025 at 14:36, Shlomo Solomon
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> nslookup verifies that you are right:
> > >>
> > >> nslookup digital.isracard.co.il
> > >> Server:         127.0.0.53
> > >> Address:        127.0.0.53#53
> > >>
> > >> Non-authoritative answer:
> > >> digital.isracard.co.il  canonical name =
> > >> digital.isracard.co.il.cdn.cloudflare.net. Name:
> > >> digital.isracard.co.il.cdn.cloudflare.net Address: 192.118.12.104
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I don't see anything unusual in cat /etc/resolv.conf
> > >> nameserver 127.0.0.53
> > >> options edns0 trust-ad
> > >> search Dlink
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Changing the nameserver to 8.8.8.8 did not help. nslookup now shows
> > >> that 8.8.8.8 is providing the DNS:
> > >>
> > >> nslookup digital.isracard.co.il
> > >> Server:         8.8.8.8
> > >> Address:        8.8.8.8#53
> > >>
> > >> Non-authoritative answer:
> > >> digital.isracard.co.il  canonical name =
> > >> digital.isracard.co.il.cdn.cloudflare.net. Name:
> > >> digital.isracard.co.il.cdn.cloudflare.net Address: 192.118.12.104
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> But still no response from ping and I still cannot access the web
> > >> site.
> > >>
> > >> I also tried traceroute but the destination is not reached
> > >
> > > traceroute will show you the network components it reaches. check
> > > the last one to understand if for example you are blocked within
> > > your local network.
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 13 May 2025 14:05:54 +0300
> > >> Gal Gur-Arie <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > CloudFlare are giving a DDOS protection services for various
> > >> > hosts, including the one that you're trying to reach.
> > >> > What is the output of:
> > >> > nslookup digital.isracard.co.il
> > >> >
> > >> > What is the output of: cat /etc/resolv.conf
> > >> > ?
> > >> > maybe, try to modify the name servers just for the test to:
> > >> > nameserver 1.1.1.1
> > >> > nameserver 8.8.8.8
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 1:58 PM Shlomo Solomon
> > >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I am not able to reach Isracard at digital.isracard.co.il.
> > >> > > The browser times out and reports ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Customer support says there is no problem.
> > >> > > https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ also says the site is up.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I tried ping digital.isracard.co.il and got no result.
> > >> > > Then I noticed that ping is trying to test a different address.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ping digital.isracard.co.il
> > >> > > PING digital.isracard.co.il.cdn.cloudflare.net (192.118.12.104)
> > >> > > 56(84) bytes of data.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > So why is my ping being sent to cloudflare.net and not
> > >> > > isracard.co.il?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I should add that I do have a domain name registered at
> > >> > > cloudflare, but I don't see any reason for the strange ping
> > >> > > behaviour or the fact that I cannot reach the Isracard site.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > And I will also add that I have no problem with other web
> > >> > > sites.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Shlomo Solomon
> > >> > > http://the-solomons.net
> > >> > > Claws Mail 4.0.0 - KDE Plasma 5.24.7 - Kubuntu 22.04
> > >> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Shlomo Solomon
> > >> http://the-solomons.net
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> > >>
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>
>
>
> --
> Shlomo Solomon
> http://the-solomons.net
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