VSNL is probably using cisco cache server, which are pretty stupid and
useless. It appears that vsnl is again taken for ride by cisco.
Regards,
Mukund Deshmukh
Beta Computronics Pvt. Ltd.
Web site - http://betacomp.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Kingsly John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LIH] VSNL's transparent proxy


>On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote:
>
> |Got a real wierd one this time. Quite a few customers using VSNL in
> |Bombay seem to be suddenly getting only cached pages. The only thing I
> |have figured out is that VSNL is using a transparent proxy which mildly
> |speaking has started cacheing page aggressively.
>
>This is one the machines 203.200.15.20 .. and does a bad job. (this is
>their bangalore one)
>
> |A certain page is rendered in a certain way depending on certain cookies
> |that I send - frankly speaking I am at my wits end trying to figure out
> |why would VSNL's proxy server think that that particular page should be
> |cached.
>
>If it can't make out that a page is dynamically generated ... it caches
>it... the machine at the IP I mentioned above... cached freshmeat ... and
>since it was a weekend I thought maybe no apps were added.. but then when
>I tried opening the page using lynx on a remote machine I got a fresh
>page... I called up vsnl and the helpdesk guys were 100% clueless about
>what was happening.... they guy asks his superior .. "what is the cache
>server ? C-A-S-H server !" ... and I had to tell him to put me onto
>someone who knew what I was talking about ... and after speaking some
>senior chap and giving the offending machines ip... he immediately stopped
>caching of the fm pages.(this happened as I was talking to him! .. so I
>guess they have a list of sites that are not cached)
>
>Call them up and be prepared to talk to someone with about 1% of your IQ
>... and get them to change the cache settings.!! All the best! ;-)
>
> |The only thing I can think of that I changed is that I stopped the
> |Pragma/Cache-control/Expires headers for a day or two and now even on
> |turning it on seems to have no effect :(.
>
> |I dont see a last modified date anywhere in the HTTP header returned by
> |Apache.
>
>I don't think it even checks to see if the page has changed.
>
> |Shouldnt any sane proxy server be fetching a fresh page everytime for
> |this URL ??
>
>What makes you think their proxy is "sane" ??? ;-)
>
>One of my friends had a worse problem... he was demoing a site to a large
>organisation with branches across the country.. and the people bangalore
>alone were not able to see the changes that they had wanted him to make
>thanks to the VSNL's cache !!
>
>
>Kingsly
>
>
>
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