what man..... i started off blocking an SMTP server ....... and we end up somewhere else. :-(
i just wanted to close a few doors out of the many. Is that not right to do so ? Arvind ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sudhakar Chandra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [LIH]Re: restricting email | On 05/15/2002 09:28 PM, did Abhi write (doodah! doodah!): | > From: "Sudhakar Chandra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | >>I would first like to make it clear that I am totally against this sort | >>of jack-booted dictatorship. If your employer does not trust their | >>employees, maybe they should consider hiring employees that they /can/ | >>trust. And you and other employees should consider moving to an | >>employer who treats you more like assets than liabilities. | > You may do very well to be against the said "dictatorship". But you are | > thinking of only private companies and organisations. On the other hand, | > they *don't* trust the users in a military setting that deals with sensitive | > data. And I doubt the army has the fine option of hiring employees that they | > "can" trust... Please go ahead and tell us that protecting the nation's | > security is the highest order of jack-booted dictatorship. :) | | All through history, tons of hogwash has been justified at the time of | its happening in the name of national security. A healthy dose of | scepticism about all secrecy, especially in government, is most | important. Should national security be a fig leaf to cover up the naked | truth behind kicksbacks in buying armaments? Should national security | be a cover to cover incompetence? | | Besides, I am not against security, per se. If you are /that/ serious | about security, use secure software and encrypt your data. I am against | short sighted pseudo-security measures. | | >>You can never | >>block every avenue out. What about people copying the so called | >>sensitive information into floppy disks and taking them outside? Or | >>does your employer strip search everyone on your way from work? In | >>which case, who strip searches the strip searcher? | > Au contraire, walk down to the south block or CDB in delhi etc. if you ever | > have an appointment with someone inside. They will routinely ask you if you | > had a floppy or CD(or a camera etc. after the tehalka episode). If they are | > suspicious of you, they will check your bags for the same. They realize that | > this is a not a fool-prrof security measure, yet they do it to just to scare | > off any folks with funny ideas in their heads. | | Such, non-fool-proof "security measures" have two problems with them: | | 1. They are frequently used by the jack booted thugs to make the weaker | fear them. I.e. is it used a way of controlling the masses. And the | masses are you and I. | | 2. They often lead to a false sense of security when all it is in the | first place is, as you yourself indicated, a pretence. | | > No one strip searched the guards afaik. What is your point ? | | Perhaps you have not heard of the saying "who polices the police". My | point was who supervises these people who are supposed to supervise us | lowly mortals? How can an employer trust the enforcers of such | "security" mechanisms? And what are the checks and blances? | | >>Also look for a new, more rewarding job. | > So if he is working for the Indian army, he should quit ? You are a regular | > patriot. :) | | Patriotism, as Benjamin Disareli put it, is the last resort of | scoundrels. There has been more evil perpetrated in Indian under the | name of national security, patriotism and religion than everything else | combined. | | Thaths | -- | "Homer, your theory of a donut-shaped universe is intriguing." | -- Stephen Hawking | thaths at aunet.org Slacker At Large http://www.aunet.org/~thaths/ | Key fingerprint = 8A 84 2E 67 10 9A 64 03 24 38 B6 AB 1B 6E 8C E4 | | | _______________________________________________________________ | | Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply | the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | _______________________________________________ | linux-india-help mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-india-help _______________________________________________________________ Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ linux-india-help mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-india-help
