vivek khurana wrote:
That is the whole point isnt it? These companies
develop websites, and test it solely on IE, and dont even care for other
browsers like Netscape, Opera etc.
Okay so this means they are using a flawed development model, but it is insufficient to prove that the are pro M$ or are blocking no-IE browsers. There is no code in the main page which is blocking any browser. Absolutely no broser identification is used anywhere.
I dont understand. The page has code which works only on IE. It is preventing other browsers to access the page by using non-standard IE-specific code. Yes, they are not "actively" blocking browsers by checking browser identification like many other sites do. But isnt being proprietary being anti-choice? It is taking away the visitors right of using the browser of their choice.
Ya, the tag used is not specified in w3c standard but it doesnot require any special libraries (MS specific) to be displayed as hyperlink.
Who said that incompatibility/lanck-of-interoperability only has to be at binary level?
The point of this drive is to publicise the fact
that there is a world outside IE which is trying to use their websites.
Other issues that are worth pointing out is when important websites like
banks, etc. are not accessible by people with disabilities like
color-blindness, etc. Not being accessible by any kind of people is discrimination,
something similar to "You can enter this premises, because you are not
wearing a shirt and tie".
What kind of awareness wil you generate by putting a
website directly into "hall of shame" without giving
them a chance to respond. Has anyone reported the
mater to icicidirect.com? Did they declined to make
changes which will make there website work with other
browser?
I have acknowleged this in my earlier mail to ILUGD which you must have read before sending this mail.
Do the authorities at icicidirect.com even have a slight idea about standards or are they even aware of other browsers? You can't assume they want to disallow other browsers. You cant assume they are even aware of other browsers, just because you know they exist.You can't make someone guilty till proven innocent ;-)
Ignorance is not always good excuse. I dont believe that other than real newbies, people are unaware of other browsers. Especially, any person who has spent even a single day at any web development outfit, will know of non-IE browsers. This is simply a case of convenient ignorance. There are many, more obvious ways to do the particular non-standard code at icicidirect.com in a more standard way.
By putting an organization into a list like this or posting suggestions like dragging them to consumer court, without giving them a chance to respond, paramounts to a libel. We are ourselves providing material for bad press regarding linux and linux users to other party.
I dont think so. We have every right to complain when we have been discriminated with, out of or without ignorance. This list is a form of protest.
What if we get bad press due to such actions? Will an end user even think of using linux if other party projects linux users as militant?
There is nothing militant about this. Think of this as the Internet way of having a "morcha" or "procession". :)
Even i agree that we need a list like hall of shame but we have to be very specific under what conditions website, ISP or vendor will be added to the list. Just remember this will be a public list and entry into such a list will have negative impact on the party involved, so all i want to recomend is just be careful!!
I have dwelled on these points in the mail I mentioned before, at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi/7253.
- Sandip
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