On Monday 31 Jan 2005 8:24 pm, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> Remember, Debian is a voluntary effort. What else besides the
> commercialization part makes you feel Debian sucks ??

That has nothing to do with this debate. There are tons of distros out there 
which are voluntary and are far more bleeding edge than debian.

Accept it, debian has its place and so does RedHat. When it comes to 
installing linux on one of the old(ancient is better) PA-RISC box, I am glad 
that debian exists.

However same time, when I am installing debian workstation, I am irritated 
that I am stuck with KDE2.2 despite of using testing/unstable (whichever is 
bleeding edge) because KDE 3.x does not compile on (same God Damn) PA-RISC 
because of GCC problems.

Should I crib? I rather not. I didn't/couldn't contribute anything either to 
debian or gcc to help the problem resolve. I would rather switch away from 
debian.

I think the good part of debian is that it insists on policy conformance. The 
bad part is it is portable. If they split their product portfolio across 
architectures, I would really love it.

Same applies to lot many other distros.  as well. I would really like to see 
slick distros which are all usable and make *some* decisions for users. I 
don't want bloody GNOME!!! FreeBSD is only one where I got base+X+KDE and 
NOTHING else.. Everyone else polluted my machine to a level which I didn't 
wanted to clean. I rather gave them space..(Oh well.. Not to mention GNOME is 
a noodle ball which you cannot unbundle by hand even if it is cold.. Not 
slackware's fault either..)

 Shridhar


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