On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 11:16:55AM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Russell King wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 10:56:14AM -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > I'd really appreciate a cmpxchg that is generically available for 
> > > all arches. It will allow lockless implementation for various performance 
> > > criticial portions of the kernel.
> > 
> > Let's recap on cmpxchg.
> > 
> > For CPUs with no atomic operation other than SWP, it is not lockless.
> 
> But then its also just requires disable/enable interrupts on UP which may 
> be cheaper than an atomic operation.

No.  SWP is atomic on the CPU it's being issued on, especially wrt
interrupts.  Only on one ARM CPU (which is UP) does it have a
questionable use, and there we do it via interrupt disable/enable.

> > For CPUs with load locked + store conditional, it is expensive.
> 
> Because it locks the bus? I am not that familiar with those architectures 
> but it seems that those will have a general problem anyways.

No.  That certainly would be bad for performance.  I can talk
authoritively from the ARM implementation.

When you use a special "ldrex" (load exclusive) instruction, the
CPU remembers the "address + cpu" pair.  If another access occurs
to the same address, this state is reset.

Only if this state is preserved will a "strex" (store exclusive)
instruction succeed.  This instruction returns status indicating
whether it succeeded.

So, to implement cmpxchg, you need to do this:

        ; r1 = temporary register
        ; r2 = address
        ; r4 = new value
        ; r3 = returned status
        ldrex   r1, [r2]
        cmp     r1, old_value
        streqex r3, r4, [r2]

> > If you want an operation for performance critical portions of the
> > kernel, please allow architecture maintainers the freedom to use their
> > best performance enhancements.
> 
> And thereby denying the kernel developers to use a simple atomic SMP 
> operation? Adding additional defines for each arch and each performance 
> critical piece of kernel logic?

No.  If you read what I said, you'll see that you can _cheaply_ use
cmpxchg in a ll/sc based implementation.  Take an atomic increment
operation.

        do {
                old = load_locked(addr);
        } while (store_exclusive(old, old + 1, addr);

On a cmpxchg, that "store_exclusive" (loosely) becomes your cmpxchg
instruction, comparing the first arg, and if equal storing the second.
The "load_locked" macro becomes a standard pointer deref.  Ergo, x86
becomes:

        do {
                load value
                manipulate it
                conditional store
        } while not stored

On ll/sc, the load_locked() macro is the load locked instruction.  The
store_exclusive() macro is the exclusive store and it doesn't need to
use the first parameter at all.  Ergo, ARM becomes:

        do {
                ldrex r1, [r2]
                manipulate r1
                strex r0, r1, [r2]
        } while failed

Notice that both are optimal.

Now let's consider the cmpxchg case.

        do {
                val = *addr;
        } while (cmpxchg(val, val + 1, addr);

The x86 case is _identical_ to the ll/sc based implementation.  Absolutely
entirely.  No impact what so ever.

Let's look at the ll/sc case.  The cmpxchg code implemented on this has
to reload the original value, compare it, if equal store the new value.
So:

        do {
                val = *addr;
                (r2 = addr, 
                ldrex r1, [r2]
                compare r1, r0
                strexeq r4, r3, [r2] (store exclusive if equal)
        } while store failed or comparecondition failed

Note how the cmpxchg has _forced_ the ll/sc implementation to become
more complex.

So, let's recap.

Implementing ll/sc based accessor macros allows both ll/sc _and_ cmpxchg
architectures to produce optimal code.

Implementing an cmpxchg based accessor macro allows cmpxchg architectures
to produce optimal code and ll/sc non-optimal code.

See my point?

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
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