On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 17:40 +0100, Olivier Galibert wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 04:34:17PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > 5 seconds is unfair and unrealistic though. The *hardware* negotiation > > before link is seen can easily take upto 45 seconds already. > > That's a network topology/hardware issue (spanning tree fun) that > > software or even the hardware in your PC can do nothing about. > > It's about ergonomics, not technical capabilities or fairness. not entirely.
> > > > this means that the "power up time" needs to be at least 45 seconds, if > > it's then down 5 seconds inbetween... that's not real power savings. > > Then that means you can't have usable autodetection and power savings > at the same time. even if you have NO power savings you still don't meet your criteria. That's basic ethernet for you.... That's what I was trying to say; your criteria is unrealistic regardless of what the kernel does, ethernet already dictates 30 to 45 seconds there. -- if you want to mail me at work (you don't), use arjan (at) linux.intel.com Test the interaction between Linux and your BIOS via http://www.linuxfirmwarekit.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
