On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 06:21:51PM +0000, Alan wrote: > > So, in short, UTF-8 is all fine and dandy if your _entire_ universe > > is UTF-8 enabled. If you're operating in a mixed charset environment > > it's one bloody big pain in the butt. > > Net ASCII is 7bit and is 1:1 mapped with UTF-8 unicode.
The same is true of ISO-8859-1. > It's just old broken 8bit encodings that are problematic. > > The kernel maintainers/help/config pretty consistently use UTF8 As I've tried to point out, that's not universally true. For instance: commit 24ebead82bbf9785909d4cf205e2df5e9ff7da32 tree 921f686860e918a01c3d3fb6cd106ba82bf4ace6 parent 264166e604a7e14c278e31cadd1afb06a7d51a11 author Rafa³ Bilski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1167691774 +0100 committer Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1167799119 -0500 and looking at that "author" closer with od: 0000140 74 68 6f 72 20 52 61 66 61 b3 20 42 69 6c 73 6b t h o r R a f a ³ B i l s k clearly not UTF-8. I doubt whether any of the commits I do on my en_GB ISO-8859-1 systems end up being UTF-8 encoded. And _this_ is the problem when it comes to generating the logs, irrespective of whether or not Linus loads UTF-8 data into an ISO-8859-1 message. For all we know, Linus' system could be using an ISO-8859 charset rather than UTF-8. But the point is there is charset damage which has happened _long_ before Linus' action. There is no character set defined for the contents of git repositories, and as such the output of the git tools can not be interpreted as any one single character set. All that UTF-8 has done is added to the "which charset is this data" problem rather than actually solving any proper real life problem. -- Russell King Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ maintainer of: - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/