On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 02:56:12PM +0300, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/01, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >         void synchronize_qrcu(struct qrcu_struct *qp)
> > > >         {
> > > >                 int idx;
> > > >         
> > > >                 smp_mb();
> > > >         
> > > >                 if (atomic_read(qp->ctr[0]) + atomic_read(qp->ctr[1]) 
> > > > <= 1) {
> > > >                         smp_rmb();
> > > >                         if (atomic_read(qp->ctr[0]) +
> > > >                             atomic_read(qp->ctr[1]) <= 1)
> > > >                                 goto out;
> > > >                 }
> > > >         
> > > >                 mutex_lock(&qp->mutex);
> > > >                 idx = qp->completed & 0x1;
> > > >                 atomic_inc(qp->ctr + (idx ^ 0x1));
> > > >                 /* Reduce the likelihood that qrcu_read_lock() will 
> > > > loop */
> > > >                 smp_mb__after_atomic_inc();
> > > >                 qp->completed++;
> > > >         
> > > >                 atomic_dec(qp->ctr + idx);
> > > >                 __wait_event(qp->wq, !atomic_read(qp->ctr + idx));
> > > >                 mutex_unlock(&qp->mutex);
> > > >         out:
> > > >                 smp_mb();
> > > >         }
> > > > 
> > > > For the first "if" to give a false positive, a concurrent switch had
> > > > to have happened.  For example, qp->ctr[0] was zero and qp->ctr[1]
> > > > was two at the time of the first atomic_read(), but then qp->completed
> > > > switched so that both qp->ctr[0] and qp->ctr[1] were one at the time
> > > > of the second atomic_read.  The only way the second "if" can give us a
> > > > false positive is if there was another change to qp->completed in the
> > > > meantime -- but that means that all of the pre-existing qrcu_read_lock()
> > > > holders must have gotten done, otherwise the second switch could not
> > > > have happened.  Yes, you do incur three memory barriers on the fast
> > > > path, but the best you could hope for with your approach was two of them
> > > > (unless I am confused about how you were using barrier_sync()).
> 
> Yes. Without synchronize_qrcu() in between, one of the counters should be == 
> 0,
> another >= 1. == 1 means we have no active readers. So the false positive 
> really
> means a concurrent switch. And we can check twice - excellent idea!

Well, if it ends up really working.  ;-)

This one needs more than just testing -- I will put together a Promela
model that does a full state-space search for races.

I do have one fall-back, namely putting both counters into a single
aligned long.  But I would like to avoid this, since there might be
architectures out there that cannot cleanly store into half-longs.
Such architectures would have to use atomic ops.  :-/

> > > While doing qrcu, somehow I convinced myself we can't optimize out taking
> > > qp->mutex. Now I think I was wrong. Good!
> > 
> > Me, I didn't want to worry about it unless someone needed it.  Which
> > it now appears they do.  ;-)
> 
> No. I do remember I tried hard to optimize out taking qp->mutex, but failed.
> So I decided it is not possible. And now you show that I just don't have 
> enough
> brains! (of course, I hate you :)

Coming from you, that is high praise indeed!!!  ;-)

Now if it really does work...

> > > Q: you deleted "if (atomic_read(qp->ctr + idx) == 1)" fastpath under 
> > > ->mutex,
> > > was this needed for this optimization to work? I am asking because I can't
> > > understand how it can make any difference.
> > 
> > Before, we held the lock, so we could just check the single current
> > element.  Now we don't hold the lock, so we need to check both elements.
> > So I replaced the "if (atomic_read(qp->ctr + idx) == 1)" with the
> > nested "if" statements that test both elements.
> 
> Ah, my question was different. The current version of qrcu does
> 
>       mutex_lock(&qp->mutex);
> 
>       idx = qp->completed & 0x1;
>       if (atomic_read(qp->ctr + idx) == 1)    // fast path
>               return;
> 
>       ...
> 
> and it seems to me that we can retain this fastpath even with your 
> optimization,
> no? Surely, it is not so important, but it is nearly free.

Ah!  This does make sense, excellent point!!!

> Paul, could you make a patch? (I'll do rcutorture test tomorrow, but I only 
> have
> P-4 ht).

I will do the Promela model, and if that works, I will submit a patch.

                                                Thanx, Paul

> Peter, do you think you can use qrcu?
> 
> Oleg.
> 
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